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#5097

Can anyone here recommend or not recommend Outward? I’m really curious about a survival open world game in a fantasy setting. I know nothing about it except the advertising videos. (I enjoy micromanaging my automatic human functions like hunger, thirst, press control every second to breath, move all of your limbs and joints to move ETCETERA)


#5098

QWOP: Survival Revolved


#5099

I’m starting it up for the first time right now! That stuff about having to pay off your mortgage at the start of the game has me intrigued. Apparently you can fail and lose your house and you just have to live with that, like with everything that happens in game as there are no save slots (you can buy it back later at a much higher cost)

We’ll see how it goes


#5101

So here’s the deal.

The game has a tutorial that you access from the main menu. You follow a path through a level and every now and then there’s a stone tablet with some instructions on it. You learn to swing your weapon, dodge, block, the whole stuff. You can die in the tutorial and I did, twice. Each time the game respawns you at the very beginning of the tutorial level. It’s like… why. You have to walk all the way back to where you were but there’s no challenge. One time I died while learning how to sleep in a tent. I spent too many hours sleeping and I either died from hypothermia or thrist, I don’t know, both showed up as Happening. I mean I could have prevented that but it was still stupid, especially since that was 20 meters from the end of the tutorial.

So after that I didn’t exactly have high hopes.

You start out stranded and some NPC carries you back home when you go to sleep. You somehow wake up on the floor next to your bed? That was funny if also alarming. You get to run around the starting town a bit and notice that the graphics don’t look all that hot. Very Unity-y. Ugly character models all around. Oh! You also get to create your own character and the creation of said character leaves a lot to be desired. There are three races, which seem to be Caucasian, African and Asian. They each have 5 or so faces and one of those is pretty. I chose the pretty, vaguely Asian face for my gal.

So you learn that you have a blood debt and have to pay it back in five days. I immediately turned the voices off after that cutscene. It’s not that the voices are super terrible but they only voice half of the text on screen and often times don’t exactly say what is written, so you listen and read and get confused. I just like the world better without the voices, ymmv

I spent the first day just exploring the town. Picked up some quests, checked out all the merchants, looted the whole place empty. There’s a lot of stuff you can pick up. Everything you need to get started, really. I see that as the town being a commune and you can just pick up all the hatchets and machetes and pickaxes you want and need. Then sell them back to the townsfolk for easy profit! Suckers.

The NPC that carried me back home in the beginning said something about a stash I can have that’s somewhere along the south coast/beach. So I decide, you know what, sounds like the easiest thing to make a buck anyone told me, so let’s set out. I bought some bandages, shouldered my axe and off I went. I have to say, this was when the game first shone. You take your first steps outside the safety of the town, your backpack carrying all your prepared meals, the blade of your axe glistening in the sun. It was pretty damn cool.

I tried to go south and stumbled across hyenas. Townsfolk warned me of them, so I was ready. I swung at them and took out two or three. I continued on and found myself on a plain just swarming with the damn beasts. I hacked a couple more down and then decided to take the loot and head back, because I was getting low on health. I wanted to loot one more corpse for its precious hide and that’s what got me. I got bitten to pieces by a hyena.

Now, the game doesn’t just end with your death. You don’t die right away, some event happens when you pass out. It so happened that I wasn’t found by a traveler and saved, instead I got dragged to a cave by the hyenas. I woke up, there were animal corpses all around. A hyena attacked me. I ran. I made it out of the cave and found myself somewhere in the plains. I searched the horizon for the lighthouse of the town, which is your house and also easy to see. I found it and made it back to town, with three hyenas chasing me.

I healed up and not much time had passed, so I could still make the 5 day debt deadline, I thought. I spent some time fishing, gathering berries and making berry jam. Then selling the berry jam. When I felt ready to go out again (I had picked up a new lucrative quest that I won’t spoil) I went back outside the town walls and was immediately attacked by the three hyenas that had chased me earlier. Like right after the loading screen. That was a real jump scare.

So the next few minutes were spent swinging at them a couple of times, heading back inside the town, healing up, heading back outside and swinging a couple more times, until they were dead. That was so weird! That the game would do that. I sorta respected it though. Also, the corpses of the hyenas never went away in the three hours of play time.

So I managed to complete the lucrative quest and I had enough money to pay back the debt. Well, not all of the debt. Just the four months payment I was due. The actual debt is something you can pay off with a story decision. Or can avoid it completely with another story decision.

Because after this introductory part you can go join one of three factions, that I also won’t spoil. Each of those choices requires you to make a long trek. And that’s where I am right now. I have no clue how I’m supposed to reach any of those three regions, looking at how “far” I’ve made it outside of town. I never did find that stash or the south coast. The overworld is completely littered with hyenas and dudes that want to kill you.

I don’t know how I’m supposed to make it but you can buy fighting lessons in town that give you new skills to use, you can go somewhere to learn magic and you can buy better armor and weapons for the right amount of coin. So what I’ll probably do is make some more jam and sell some more hides. Get all stocked up on medical supplies and food and then attempt a long trek.

It’s… pretty engrossing, actually!

I had fun so far but is the game worth 40 Euros? I’d put my experience more at like 20. The game’s a bit lacking on the technical and attention-to-detail side. The first time I rested on a bedroll I had a torch out and my character just snuggled up with the burning torch next to their face instead of putting it away first. Or the waking up next to the bed. It’s stuff like that. The ugly characters, too. But I feel like the whole could easily be more than the sum of its parts. It’s possible. I can’t entirely tell after three hours. I just hope it’s not going to be too frustratingly difficult. Also, the fact that you have to live with whatever happens to you in the game without the option to go back to a previous state is pretty crippling to me. I don’t know if I’m cut out for that!

But yeah, I’ll play some more.

One note: I could totally see this rocking pretty hard if you play it coop with a friend, because that’s an option. I don’t know how that works with the story, if you’re playing together from the start or what. But yeah, long treks are better embarked on with a friend


#5102

i have some friends playing it and it’s been remarked that it’s weirdly engrossing


#5103


#5104

A good PV for God Wars Future Past’s newly announced PC release. Tells you everything you need to know about the game.


#5105

No I have too many games already this looks so gooooood


#5106

80 Days and the other Inkle stuff is respectable but not my jam, but I always hoped they’d push in a direction like this.

I’m so ready.


#5107

I quite like 80 Days and it’s due in no small part to how much they limit the interactivity to make it inobtrusive as a phone game (one of very few genres I feel that way about), so I’m actually not crazy about this direction, but we’ll see!


#5108

Fair enough; all my mobile game experience is grudgingly keeping up on an old tablet and I get itchy with the distance they all hold me at


#5109

The experimentation with lower rez CG aesthetics…the gorgeous alternative fantasy worlds…puzzles based on exploration language and context…starring a girl.

I think someone has been reading my dream journals.


#5110

#5111

LOL

See you in another two months I guess

edit:

they’re going to dumb it down (edit: optimistically, maybe dumb it sideways or dumb it upwards). I don’t think that would be necessary if they hadn’t fucked up the marketing and messaging in nearly every other way it was possible to fuck up, mostly in ways nobody had ever dreamed of fucking up before.

the most alienating aspect of Artifact’s gameplay is the per-creature attack arrow RNG, which I’ve always defended as the game is about managing a chaotic battlefield from a higher level than going “PIKACHU I CHOOSE YOU” and poking each and every mythical beast and pointing them at what you want them to fight, as in Hearthstone, or the opposite situation in Magic where monsters sit around doing nothing for many turns for fear of defender’s advantage. (I guess I might as well talk about Artifact’s gameplay a bit since it will likely no longer exist, but I’ll wait another ice age to see what Valve comes up with to replace it.)


#5112

how many jokes have people already made about Artifact becoming an artifact

If you think about it, Artifact was like an arcade tcg, complete with coin munching. So if you want to get your TCG on you can always get a real Japanese arcade TCG except without the credit feeding, coming next week.

Edit: Sega please port Sengoku Taisen to PC.

Edit 2: I think there’s a new Yu gi oh game coming out soon too.


#5113

looks crazy sick, will cop

that card-on-touchscreen interface is incredible


#5114

not to be like, that nerd, but they’ve had stuff like this since at least the last time i was in Japan like uhhhhh 8 years ago. Square had a game called Lord of Vermillion 2 that i bought a deck for and played a bunch. it’s a cool tech that i wish would come stateside, but it makes sense that it doesn’t.


#5115

Ignorance is bliss for things I can’t have.


#5116

Yeah, Google around for other arcade TCGs and you’ll find all sorts of crazy stuff. Lord of Vermillion, Sengoku Taisen (it’s predecessor Sangokushi Taisen got a Nintendo DS port), Wheel of Eternity, Code of Joker, etc. There are even sports games like soccer and horse racing adapted to a touch screen x card interface. It’s all very cool and looks very expensive.


#5117

This feels newsworthy.