First I’m hearing of it.
The Hawkeye Disney Marvel show feels a little like Netflix Marvel shows
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i sort of feel the same way, and also kind of think too much about this stuff. but it occurred to me that one of the biggest differences is that those netflix shows knew that they were starting from scratch, and that it was necessary to give some indication of who the characters are and why we should care about them from the first episode. well, maybe with the exception of iron fist which just sucked.
like, comics fans know who daredevil is and what to look forward to, but that doesn’t mean you can hold back on letting daredevil do cool daredevil shit until the 3rd or 4th episode of the series. you gotta let him kick some ass in every episode.
i think the same approach would actually work really well with hawkeye, since he’s been sidelined in all the movies he’s been in to this point. but the show really expects everyone who watches it to be fully invested in hawkeye like as a human being, and hasn’t taken the time to show him doing cool wacky shit with a bow and arrow until like the third episode (haven’t watched it yet, just assuming they eventually get around to it?)
so you just have a sad ptsd guy who we know is supposed to be a badass, but the only actual action sequence we get is this tongue in cheek bullshit of him pretending to beat up a bunch of LARP nerds, mocking the viewer’s demand to see hawkeye do cool shit. it’s honestly kind of insulting.
i liked the mcu stuff in the beginning because they seemed willing to take the time to justify to newcomers why these characters were worth paying attention to, even going so far as to radically reinvent them personality wise (e.g. thor, ant man, guardians of the galaxy) for the sake of making it work better on film. now they’re just diving head first into only making this shit “for the fans,” who will be satisified when (for example) hawkeye’s second episode ends with a “big reveal” of a character without offering any indication of who this person is and why we should care, making it meaningful only for people who both a) know who echo is and b) have been following the casting announcements enough to know that the actress we see is the actress who is playing echo. it’s so fucking warped!
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Maybe, but it’s not really surprising that they’re just going down the same hole the comics themselves did.
I didn’t mind the “big reveal” to be Echo. Remember, this is a bunch of white dumb gang dudes run by a badass Mexican lady with a weird obsession with speakers. That’s enough for most people (me included).
I’ve now watched the third episode, so not entirely caught up yet i guess, but i am at least satisfied by the number of wacky arrow hijinks the episode contained.
it still feels like whoever is planning this has no idea how to make a tv show, but whatever. like holding off on the arrow shenanigans until an hour or so into a movie would be a strange enough decision on its own, but three weeks into a six week (?) series is just like… weird to me. oh well.
more troubling to me is how they are doubling down on the absolute stupidest part of endgame, the ronin stuff. i guess there is no way around it, but it’s really hard for me to imagine a scenario in which i’m convinced that echo isn’t totally justified in wanting to kill clint when she finds out its him. like what could possibly convince her otherwise? oh, i know, it will be him saying… “but i have fambly…” and her saying… "hey… family… i know what that’s like… maybe we aren’t so different…"even though he obviously wasn’t able to give the same amount of thought to his own racist murder rampage.
just don’t know how they expect us to accept a character with that much baggage as the ‘im to old for this’ lovable stress dad archetype. yes he deserves to die, and i hope he burns in hell!
I just started watching Stargirl, and everything about it is weirdly anachronistic in kind of disturbing ways. The teen characters all have cell phoneIts but dress in a sort of late 90s way. One of the characters has a dad that is apparently a WWII era Japanese war criminal? The main character’s dad looks to be about my age but listens to doo wop music mostly? The younger brother character is into Fortnite and the dad, despite looking to be my age and therefore part of the generation that played stuff like Sonic the Hedgehog as a kid tries to relate with stories about Dig Dug and Asteroids? He suggests the kid get a job delivering newspapers in 2020?
It’s like a bunch of middle aged dudes could not conceive of modern fathers behavinng like their peers and based them on their own dads instead. And decided that cars from the 50s and 60s would be cool to include? It almost feels like it shoule have been set in the 80s or something but then there’s a revenge porn origin story for one of the superheroes, and everything feels really wrong. Maybe it’s trying to capture the vibe of Riverdale before it went fully off the rails. I don’t know.
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there is a very, very stupid explanation for some of this which is that it takes place in “Earth-2” from The Flash which, years before Stargirl, they decided to differentiate by giving Central City a weird Gotham City style anachronistic vibe with monorails and zeppelins and 50s but not literally 50s energy and so now this unrelated thing is vaguely following up on that
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Wait, do you mean that the first alternate universe they hopped into in The Flash? I had no idea Stargirl was tied that closely into the existing CW stuff. I feel like I’ve heard good things about it but it’s never looked good, and I’ve always been too lazy to watch it. So I have no idea what that show is actually like. Does it feel like a regular CW superhero show or does it have its tone and style?
it’s mostly not tied in that closely (so far) outside of jay garrick being the 90s flash guy again. i’ve honestly never seen it, i’m just going by nerd osmosis. but i’m not sure it’s wildly different like say superman which goes for the whole snyder meets friday night lights thing
It’s more of wacky teen drama than standard CW superhero stuff. It’s pretty much what I’d imagine Riverdale would be if I ever watched Riverdale. Reimagining the whole Sportsmaster is a sport themed supervillain training his daughter Artemis to be a villain too into Sportsmaster is a helicopter parent/serial killer way too invested in his duaghter playing football is pretty master stroke, as is making Sportsmaster’s civillian identity a personal trainer everybody calls “The Crusher”
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so they brought kingpin back in the hawkeye finale only to give him absolutely nothing interesting to say or do but also inexplicably make him like strong enough to rip the door off a car and throw it and impervious to arrows. what???
i am hearing thru osmosis the arguments about the new version of mockingbird on hawkeye decanonizing agents of shield and it truly amazes me how marvel has sucessfully turned the entire surface of the earth into the wizard magazine letters section
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Just wait till the Sonic Adventure reboot starring Daniel Day Lewis as Eggman and Ryan Gosling as Sonic inaugurates the GameFAQs era
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also marvel technically did a Zorro comic so i am fully invested in a surprising Easter Egg Shocking Reveal about the true identity of Tony Dalton’s guy next season on Hawkeye
I mean, shit, Marvel published that Dune comic, so.
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peacemaker is pretty alright! james gunn’s brand of amiable edgelordness is pretty solidly brought over from (the) suicide squad and Cena really does have the charisma to carry the thing. and as a tv-liker i have to respect the full dance number opening credits in a world of prestige tv soup.
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that was pretty much my hope/expectation, good to hear, can’t believe HBO Max still isn’t doing 4K even for an eye candy superhero show