Star Wars Thread Episode II

Not watching Star Wars is noble.

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Marfalump was a four-armed alien male who was adopted by a Human family who lived in Iowa on the planet Earth. He loved Star Wars and the soda Pepsi.

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The first episode of Ahsoka is probably the worst directed/acted/edited star wars thing yet… It’s actually kind of impressive. Filoni has out Lucased George Lucas

This may be too much even for me

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worse than rise of skywalker?

Yes, in my opinion with TROS the problems are more with the story and writing. It’s actually pretty competent aesthetically/technically. And you really have to be working overtime to get bad performances out of that cast

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I would not say that certain sequences featuring leia qualify as technically or aesthetically competent, unless we’re talking on a scale that includes early 80s doctor who

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Oh yeah that stuff was bad. But it was their choice to try to write the movie around repurposing the footage they already had of Carrie Fisher you obviously can’t blame her. The Lando stuff is also hard to watch but i feel like it is worth pretending otherwise for the sake of Billy Dee Williams.

In general I admire the insane pacing of TROS even though it’s not actually like… Good. It doesn’t really work but it’s weird enough to be compelling to me in some way

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no I only blame Abrams

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Yeah that’s fair. It’s def the worst movie in the mainline series. Still TBD whether it’s the worst live action star wars of all time. I include the cut scenes from Jedi Knight in this . Which are the closest analog to any of the Disney plus shows in terms of general vibes (Andor excluded obviously)

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If I was trying to become a filmmaker I would probably spend weeks comparing that one episode from the last series of The Mandalorian that takes place on Coruscant with any of the Coruscant sequences from Andor. Like just dissecting every choice that makes two things that on paper are so similar so wildly different in quality. I know ultimately is just that one sucks and the other is good but I feel like you could learn a lot by picking apart why that is on a moment by moment basis

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worse than Obi Wan?

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I think it’s worse than the worst parts of Obi Wan, and that also had some moments I genuinely liked. I think the same may be possible for this show, but we shall see I guess.

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ahsoka is too homework for me to try out but i will definitely check a youtube clip if they stunt cast a comedian i like or put in some kind of terrible deepfake cyber lando or bring back a character from the ewok movie or whatever

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I’ll keep you posted…

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is mandalorian season 3 homework for this?

also idk the blue/black color palette at the end of TROS is such a let down from TLJ’s, esp krait. exogul is an entire planet and third of a movie color picked from a shot of the emperor shooting lightning at luke but that scene played against the two other battles with their own palettes

never mind that the death star II interior was a masterpiece of miniature compositing i still have a kinesthetic memory of and i can barely recall the deal with the death star destroyer fleet

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as far as i can tell it is not–i think ahsoka shows up in one or two episodes of the second season of mandalorian and/or boba fett, but all you really need to know is she is looking for thrawn, and that is basically established in the first episode of this too.

i’m not recommending anyone to watch ahsoka, but i do have a very hard time explaining how bad the first episode is so i feel like i want people to see for themselves. like all of your criticisms of TROS are valid but this is just on a different level.

it has that quality that i mainly associate with attack of the clones, just lots of footage of people standing rigid, 6 feet apart from one another, reading lines of dialogue with a mushy score just kind of seeping in to really draw your attention to every single awkward pause. the problem isn’t even that the actors are tasked with delivering tons of awkward exposition full of made up words, i think it’s meant to be really deep character relationship stuff, but the words they are saying still don’t really feel like they mean anything. but at least AOTC also had plenty of action. granted, the action is not on the whole GOOD, but it does kind of mix things up a bit.

i think i realized this morning that part of the problem is that Rebels was always a pretty plot-driven show, and the characters were likable and had good voice actors but did not really have too many easily identifiable like… personality traits? Kanan and Ezra were the most fleshed out characters in the series, and for obvious reasons neither of them show up here. So it’s all Sabine, Ahsoka, and Hera. This would normally be a good opportunity to go a little deeper with all of them, but in every case Filoni just seems kind of obsessed with the idea that in the post-ROTJ world every character has just become kind of morose and taciturn. there’s a lot of scenes of characters just like… staring at an object. it’s hard to explain you really just have to see it for yourself.

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my god… he is lucas’ charlie bucket

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omg the cold open is this formalist riff on the phantom menace. such an ill omen!

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THAT IS THE BEST PART OF THE EPISODE. I AM NOT LYING. I think that sequence actually got my hopes up too high, then I realized it’s like… just meaningless ā€˜reference’ / reenactment. there’s no weight or meaning to it

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watching the two of you in particular suffering through this is more entertaining than the show could possibly be for me

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