Star Trek Thread 3: The Search for Snout

How can you make a Starfleet academy show without Boothby…

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I think boothby is dead as shit by the 32nd century. He was only a hologram at that fake starfleet academy in that one voyager episode.

nah fuck off lil bro. the seventh streaming series don’t get to definitively say sisko disappeared forever i’m personally demoting the canonicity level of everything after enterprise to [a robot chicken sketch based on the jj abrams movie]

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Digging these multiparters in season 4 with the exception of the over-long augments 3 parter. Feels ambiguous how much of it is planning for Enterprise’s inevitable end. I’ve greatly enjoyed General Shran ‘the man’ Combs and his whole arc.

I have not been able to like any modern trek, neither strange new worlds nor lower decks does it for me, but for Holly Hunter and Paul Giamatti I simply must get fooled again

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i always thought it amazing that star trek online, which literally does whatever the fuck it wants, did not ever attempt to make any kind of storyline or justification that would allow sisko to return even though they had an entire gamma quadrant expansion where almost every other ds9 cast member appears. like who watches ds9 and goes god I hope they never resolve this storyline like the first fucking thing I would do if I made a show that takes place afterwards is have him come back. because at this point it’s just ridiculous, fucking janeway still gets to float around but we never get to see sisko ever again? :roll_eyes:

i think a lot about how when i was a kid my dad was one of the only people i knew who cared about star trek who said sisko was his favorite captain because every message board i posted on about star trek was full of guys mysteriously identifying him as the worst captain ever for vague totally not suspicious reasons. still mad at my mom for not letting us go to a meet n greet with avery brooks because she hated the idea of me and my dad doing something fun without her for a weekend

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Merchandising was so weird before they started putting stuff in movies and shows specifically just to make toys out of it later

But I feel like kids back in those days would have been equally irritated by the toy having a decal that just says the name of the show it’s based on. Totally breaks immersion. I remember being really disappointed whenever this happened. Like the real ninja turtles wouldn’t ride around in a van that said Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles on it

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real bizarre tone on this week’s SNW where it feels like they simultaneously think they’re better than TOS and singing the praises of TOS. i honestly have no problem with them doing a one off holodeck/recreation room episode like fine but this really was odd. the bits with the more authentic 60s sets and costumes just kinda makes me think that these producers are cowards more than ironically nostalgic or whatever they were trying to pull. i guess it’s fun to see the kirk guy do sort of a hack stand up comedian version of shatner (which reminded me of the end of star trek 09 where chris pine just does a perfect accurate shatner for 5 seconds of screentime) and fun to hear jess bush’s austrailian accent. the idea that in star trek the AI would invent from whole cloth a star trek parody is very silly. also la’an being a character who is khan’s descendant who kirk and now spock fall in love with is incredibly fanfic. i liked strange new worlds’ whimsy but this shit is getting a little too fuckin cute

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I need to finally get a frame to put this back up, if only because I have had this since 1999 and I like that

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i’m not usually one of the people who’s like UM THEY’RE RUINING CANON but ever since i read this post i cannot help but think about that tng episode where they pull scotty out of the transport buffer, he’s like totally blown away by the enterprise-d, and geordi is like “wait til you see the holodeck” which is a lot funnier now and you think scotty messing with a holodeck type thing would be anywhere in the history they never shut up about reading on that show lol

also if they had shit like this in the 2250s why was like the entire command staff of the D cumming over the SOUNDS AND SMELLS AND REAL FEELINGS of the holodeck 110 years later like it’s a brand new thing we’ve never had before. I always thought the rec room in the animated series was like an imperfect simulation because they never actually generate any holograms or anything, it seems more like a thing you go into when you wanna say “computer put me on a beach” than anything else

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enterprise doing a holodeck episode was also funny

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that episode is honestly an all timer for me because at least they explain it as advanced alien technology but most importantly that’s the episode where trip gets mpreg and weepy

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i liked the episode of TNG where they kept breaking character with one of the holodeck characters and eventually they become self aware, try to step off the holodeck, and then disintegrate.

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Franchises ROCK

I’m SO GLAD this is how media works now

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We have become completely unable to picture a society where anyone who doesn’t have famous parents could do anything interesting. Even before I knew it was bad I didn’t watch Picard because who wants to see these mfs again just give us a new crew like the other shows. How much we’ve forgotten since everyone rightfully shit on the Enterprise finale for having Riker and Troi show up

also speaking of Picard congratulations to the writers of that show for fumbling so fucking hard with the romulans it’s embarrassing. maybe the worst to ever do it. god bless

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Finally finished up Star Trek Enterprise. They really went for it in the end and the final episode was very sweet. Writers seemed to be taking every chance they could get to wrap up any chances to integrate the series more generally since I guess they had no idea if Star Trek would ever continue again?

I can’t believe they went out of their way to explain the Klingon disease resolving that one off line from Worf in that DS9 tribble episode. Vulcan also gets complete political reform at comedic speed. They even do a mirror universe episode with its own opening credit sequence and have the restraint not to have them meet the regular universe crew. Having them encounter a TOS ship and view its relatively advanced technology with that 60s set design is the kind of strange tonal mix I’m here for.

Reed as an edgy spy I could take or leave. Sad that nothing ever really got made for Hoshi to latch onto.

Heading into the final episode I was worried that the end would be a hastily written regular episode but as soon as Riker pauses the holodeck I was leaning all the way forward. Crazy that the final episode of the series is a Riker episode.

So lower decks next or should I abandon Trek for different people in space?

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Lower Decks is really funny if you like star trek. And there’s even some real episodes of it the further you get into it. It is insanely ugly but what can you do. Mariner is unironically one of the best star trek characters anyone’s ever written if you give the show time and of course it can’t be forgotten that a large part of this is because Tawny Newsome is great and hilarious.

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Agreed, lower decks is great. It’s actually what motivated me to finally watch all of tng just so I could understand more of the jokes

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