Romancing SaGa 2 / general kawazu worship thread

Yeah I play this game with like six tabs of spreadsheets open and I have to cross reference game menus with original names and just infer based on context or stats or sometimes kana/kanji what move I’m looking at

Doing all this homework actually makes the game more satisfying to me. It feels like a major victory to absorb a skill I’ve been grinding for and finally transform into a high level monster

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Frankly one of the nice things about this game is that, as long as you’re a little curious, you can ignore all building advice and end up winning handily anyway. I don’t see it as a « faq » game
I even managed to make two monsters work endgame!!

I beat up the earth dragon in both Blue’s and Lute’s quest now. Not much strategy beyond putting a robot with a bunch of armors and swords + multislash in the first slot, he’ll be almost unkillable and attract attacks

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oh yeah I totally forgot how your party gets attacked in descending order 1-5, not just front row / back row stuff

It’s fucking hilarious how Red can transform into Alkaizer if all his team mates are blinded

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or if everyone’s dead but robots (and he gets 2 very good unique robots on his story so there’s no reason not to use them)

Playing Red now just got to the part where the story opens up a little bit with 4 main goals and I’m jumping around regions where I remember finding something useful as Blue… Nobody in Scrap wanted to join me this time around aside from Lute, but that’s fine since I wanted to try out new guys anyway.

I really like the feeling of tackling the same world with some remixes as each character, using old knowledge and learning new. Being able to see Magic Kingdom seems like such a big deal because I’ve only played Blue’s story. This game feels like a really cool and deep playset to turn around in your hands.

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Just walked into my local ramen place and the owner, instead of taking my order, excitedly proclaimed he’s been playing SaGa Frontier Remastered

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spent most of last night doing the Junk Shop trick (which i never knew about) and i guess today i will do the other part of it? but apparently i need some gold ingots, or something, and i have none? attempting to find consistency between FAQs from multiple decades ago has been a real pain in the ass, but maybe there’s some YT video of someone doing it.

feel like once i complete that bit of housekeeping, i will press on with Blue’s story

I tried the gold bar trick, you’ll want at least 15k starting money and all you do is buy gold bars from an npc in Nelson, which you can only get to from Owmi I think, and sell them to the exchange at Koorong. It’s a much faster way to make money than the junk shop trick, but it’s also way more boring. I wish there was a full gold trading economy like it feels they wanted there to be.

Speaking of money, I’m really surprised even that seems to vary between characters. As Blue I had a really hard time with it, while Red’s got it way easier, since he starts out with a salaried job.

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You can do the gold bar trick with 7500 and maybe even less. I know I started at 12.5k and made hundreds of thousands that I ended up not even needing.

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Yeah it doesn’t seem like there’s that much to spend money on in this game? Maybe if you’re trying to speed through Lute’s route or something but just running through the quests and leveling you’ll generally end up with enough money to properly fill the slots where you haven’t found good equipment in the wild. Maybe if you want 5 swords users or something.

To be fair I’ve only done Emelia and Red’s route, midway through the mech one now.

Gun users are pretty expensive, They each want 2 of those 4000g guns from Koorong
Robots are pretty costly too

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Devil squid is still a major pain & a cardboard cutout version of itself

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Just did the gold trick with 4.5k, took a little longer but I now have hundreds of thousands of dollars I’ll never spend.

I followed @lonelyfrontier’s advice and bought up 6 bars in Koorong, went over to Nelson and bought up whatever they had over there, then went back to Koorong and sold off bars until the price went down to 480. I think that always leaves you with 6 bars? Then I went back to Nelson, bought up bars, sold them in Koorong until the price fell to 480, repeat.

May have gotten some steps wrong there which is sad since I just did this like 20 minutes ago but I think that should work.

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yeah iirc I don’t usually have to bother with the gold bar trick but I’ve done the junk shop around the difficulty spikes in mec-heavy scenarios (eg T260 right around when you meet Leonard) to avoid having to grind

I only just worked out that you need to have skill slots free in order to ‘glimmer’ new ones, goddamnit.

Does Fuse ever learn gun skill? He comes equipped with one so I assumed he’d be good with them but he never seems to gain any skills unless he’s using swords or martial arts

You only get gun skills at the end of a fight. Have you checked the Arts > Guns menu? They’d be in there.

yeah, for Fuse it’s greyed out. I thought it was because I was mostly using his Hand Blaster skills that come with his default gun, but using other guns doesn’t seem to gain skills either

I think they have to be the single shot pistol types as well, i.e. they can’t be anything that looks larger in the weapon icon: cannon, rocket launcher, etc. And yeah I don’t believe his blaster counts either.

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Yeah I just worked this out too, apparently the ‘cannons’ don’t count as guns. Once I gave him a pistol he started getting some moves