wkw has made a bunch of horrific color grading changes, but they’re his changes so i guess we have to respect them
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are they on these blu-rays? if so are the original cuts on there too?
sorry my google’s broken i swear
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do we though?
Does anyone respect Geore Lucas for his special edition changes?
well i mean wkw isn’t exactly george lucas right
but yes i’m mostly horrified at the idea of these burying the original cuts or some shit
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I do believe that George Lucas had a point with the special edition changes. The special editions are certainly easier to look at and appreciate for people who aren’t into films and don’t like “old” movies. So, I’d say, yeah, the masses probably like the special editions way more than the originals. And Star Wars was always supposed to be popular and speak to the masses. It takes rather niche influences mixed with popular influences and makes them presentable to an even larger (and probably more uninformed) audience. The special editions served that audience.
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What the fuck is this
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The truth. I know people like that. Every movie older than 20 years is “old” and that’s a bad thing. They watch TV the whole day, go to the theaters and have never read a movie review or thought about movies much deeper than “I liked that” or “I didn’t like that.” It’s more common than you think.
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I’m not going to talk about Star wars in the neutral zone but I don’t really mind the special editions. A few of the changes stand out as like particularly bad (mainly just the song in jabbas palace) but most of them are fine
Throwing a fit about the special editions is the dawn of star wars fans feeling like they own/are owed something by star wars and it’s only gotten worse since then. Plus if you’re younger than like 45 and claim some kind of deep personal connection to the sanctity of the original movies I feel like you’re kind of a poser
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I don’t understand how some bad cgi in a couple places in the original star wars makes them any less “old movies” to these people though
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I think it’s more just that they’re the only versions of the movie still available in like normal media formats
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Singing CGI frogs weren’t the only addition though. Start Wars now looks very different from 1977. Big changes to image quality, color timing and sound.
Star Wars has always been changing. A New Hope got changes made to it as soon as Empire was out! Not just the opening crawl with the new title but also new sounds and the like. So what I saw on VHS or before that on TV was already different from the theatrical release in 1977. I don’t know how many special editions deep the ones on Disney plus are right now but they look way more modern than what was originally released in theaters or, especially, available on VHS.
Not like a perfect movie but hell yes. And now as a war movie dad right in my wheel house.
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what the hell is this 210 minute cut.
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I feel like writing some more about this special edition trend because I totally get George Lucas’ “art is never finished, only abandoned” (which is supposedly a da Vinci quote) line of thinking. I feel like most movies and videogames with the widest reach adhere to this principle. Star Wars certainly keeps itself relevant like this. The Marvel cinematic universe is building on stories that have been retold countless times in different versions in the comics. World of Warcraft is doing this with each expansion. Every GTA since 3 is basically the same painting with an added layer of paint on top. 3, Vice City, San Andreas, 4, 5, online… they sometimes build on the same exact engine, reuse art assets, either slightly or greatly modified.
So, this approach is especially apparent in videogames. Exactly because developers reuse ideas, systems and technology, upgrade them and further develop them with each sequel. I mean of course we’ve got the literal application of a “special edition” when we get another remaster or remake but even sequels are often just iterating on the same idea, much more so than in movies.
It’s something that works, it’s no surprise that it works and I don’t have anything against it, either.
wait did they get the long cut of The Keep?
Oh, just to add: what I do disagree with though is the erasing of history, that previous versions of whatever art are swept under the rug and can’t be accessed anymore. That’s horrible.
that just sounds like remastering though
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yeah, I don’t think there’s any movie I wish I liked as much as The Keep, so I’d take anything
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