FPGA World Tour

Wait till you own one.

Am I the only person that finds mister like a 1000 times easier to use than something like retroarch? If you just stick to update_all and don’t mess with beta stuff it mostly just works.

Perhaps initial setup is a little more difficult, but it seems pretty on par with a raspberry pi or something. Same basic steps of prepping an SD card, copying roms, etc.

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I’ve never loved retroarch, but the fact that it is pointedly not a Raspberry Pi that I can SSH to over wifi is worth about several thousand demerits

I mention retroarch because as a unified framework it is comparable to mister in that sense. Setting up a dozen independent emulators is even worse.

I’ve never had the patience to really get into mame either. Mister seems simpler by comparison there as well.

EDIT: The actual simple solution is analogue or mini consoles of course. But even with analogue there is some tweaking to be done if you want the best experience.

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well, there are usually maintainers to do that for you:

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is there a whiff of delusion wafting in the air that blows through the fpga end-user ideation space? sure, yes, probably, but you know, in the end: God loves a tinkerer. God bless the tinkerers and their quest to ā€œplay playstation gamesā€ and god bless the bald weirdo arch-tinkerers who made it possible.

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Not having to pick out which of the 600000 retroarch projects/configurations/managers/frontends/whatever is The Right One is real nice

I ssh into my mister because I don’t usually attach a keyboard to it but I only need to do so rarely. I set up a network share with my roms (which I’d do for a retropie or any other dedicated device too) and that’s pretty much the end of it for me.

My TV is not (currently) next to my desktop and I enjoy the mister’s particular flavor of tiny computer, so there you go

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i oscillate between ā€œok, these things are just an affiliate link youtuber griftā€ and ā€œfuuuuck i want one, if only i had the space to retrieve my sony wega from my mother’s houseā€ etc.

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I know my affection for ZSNES is basically an affectation at this point but I am still absolutely mystified that people are enthusiastically re-litigating Saturn compatibility and whatever else. I was there in 2005! idgi

I also just don’t play old games very much anymore though is part of it, like I already exhausted the catalogue and my relationship to it during previous waves of emulator development

having used a crtpi for awhile before i got a mister, yeah, i would never intentionally go back to playing anything on that. i converted my pi into a mt32-pi instead because mister feels so much better

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like, runahead is great, but it isn’t perfect
it causes little visual artifacts
it doesn’t work properly with every core/game (try space manbow on MSX for example)

and mister still feels snappier than retroarch with runahead, and the audio is perfect, never crackles and fucks up like it does on a pi, etc.

if you just play RPGs in ZSNES it should hold pretty much zero value for you, but if you just want to play an SNES game where you have muscle memory around input timing and you don’t want to relearn it or spend money on Just a Super Nintendo (Analogue) or An Actual Super Nintendo + Scaler + RGB cables + Everdrive + whatever else the hell you need… i mean

it clearly has a place, but it also clearly isn’t for everyone. i don’t know why anyone would be particularly confused about what it brings to the table even if you don’t care about input latency and aren’t ā€œbrought outā€ of things by emulation quirks and inaccuracies…

i think EVO '22 was using MiSTer for Super Turbo

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they did yeah
that’s something i wish we’d had 10+ years ago, damn

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idk, probably my most sentimental gaming experience was Mother 3 for the second time through on a 2010 Android phone running in an emulator called ā€œgameboid advanceā€ in which I acclimated to the timing no problem and had more fun than on original hardware. I think I just appreciate accumulated compromises far more than I do authenticity

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also, on an aesthetic level, I have to concede that I really like denouncing trends as a ā€œmystificationā€ because I read it in one of mussolini’s speeches once and that word seems to evoke a specifically anti-papist quality, which on the topic of configuring things and its elegance, oh no, look who it is again, another verbose italian:

https://www.simongrant.org/web/eco.html

i mean if you don’t play older games much and you don’t care about doing it on a CRT, then yeah, this probably holds zero interest, but like hasn’t that always been the distinction?

for me, i find retroarch kind of irritating and at times incomprehensible to use and i also despise playing old games on new displays because they look like garbage. i don’t care how ā€œgoodā€ the shaders and filters get - they aren’t the same thing.

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as I type this I’m currently in a meeting about a wikidata contribution a bunch of universities are making toward emulation documentation, I’m sitting across the room from a raspberry pi hooked up to a CRT, and I also find retroarch frequently irritating. I refuse to exclude myself from this demographic!! I think shaders and postprocessing and anything that perverts anyone’s original intent are fun

i guess i’m just not really following what discussion you’re trying to bring about here. all preferences can be dismissed as affectations if we try hard enough.

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I was in a reddit thread the other night where people were like, nagging some FPGA developer about whether their patreon would lose support if they ported various mister cores to analogue pocket and I had a weird out of body experience of remembering a bunch of teens needling one guy on the GBAtemp forums to patch something in SNESadvance in 2004 which actually seemed considerably more justified at the time (I contributed a non-glitched layer map for donkey kong country!) and now I’m taking it out on my friends

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well now that your mistakes are clear to me, it all comes together. like even as someone who really likes retro games a lot i find inhabiting any of the retro-game spaces to be anathema

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Well there’s your problem

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