Final Fantasy 7: The Original, The Remake, The Legacy

very well, then

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trials of mana (the remake) appears to be structured similarly to dq11: a world cut up into sections with a separate overworld more or less traversable by ‘vehicle’ (less so in dq11’s case aside from the 3ds version because in other versions your means of travel can only land in marked places)

there’s also dq builders 2, which isn’t exactly a traditional jrpg with towns, though it is pretty much entirely open world

bravely default?

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i finished ff7r and i liked the ending. now to read all this blurry text.

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this is literally the first time I have been interested in Dirge of Cerberus

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one thing a lot of late 90s squaresoft narratives did that I’m extremely fond of is set up their protagonists not so much as preordained chosen ones but rather as individuals who were able to be heroic precisely because they were almost god-given talents, like Hercules. they were still unique beneficiaries of circumstance, but always more and less so than others, usually with the implicit idea that it only could’ve happened that way by accident.

also I’m not sure I’d ever seen that scene and I don’t love it! obviously it’s hard to fill in the details of someone having inflated themselves into someone else’s memories in a fugue but the implication that they briefly became best buds and then the better of them happened to get waxed was probably better left vague.

I don’t think I even knew crisis core existed until googling this shit this month

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Crisis Core is a better game and tells a better story than FF7.

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so i’ve thought about the ending a bit and here are my thoughts about final fantasy vii remake and its ending:

when i saw people were upset about the ending for being “real advent children bullshit” i wasn’t sure exactly sure what that meant, and if that means “cloud jumping around off stuff” and they were enjoying the remake from the beginning then i’m not sure what the issue is. the only issue with advent children was it ran a bit long.

the ending of final fantasy vii remake is a revisit to that otherworldly final zone in classic final fantasy games where we all fight a common enemy. sephiroth is absolute scum this time and not a mysterious (also super duper scummy in the original) character cloud pursues. all of our friends have our reasons for fighting sephiroth now, instead of it being revealed once you get to kalm and go through a long group of flashbacks to figure out where everyone is as far as histories and motivations go.

sephiroth is creepy yaoi seme, he should take a big shower and chill out. he’s no longer the implied seme i got into yaoi for, he’s an absolute creep (“don’t deny me”) and his eyes are big and weird (“embrace me”) and i don’t like looking at him. i liked beating him up in the final fantasy Fantasy Zone with cloud’s friends who have also had to deal with him ruining their lives. i’m sorry if i’m missing the part of the ending everyone hated or smth but final fantasy 7 remake’s ending is promising that they’re going to be not only faithful but re-align things from the original in a way that is good for a remake.

other than that, i had an incredibly good time with this game. every new character or side-story or detour or new piece of music was really good. i loved the enrichment of characters and world building. i felt like i was playing the best alternate vision of a game that i have had to personally defend since i was a kid because it was too much of not what people wanted.

also i cannot state enough that the original will always be there, and the remake is ripe for criticism because the original exists (and it’s also a new video game), but i will never stop giving the remake a chance and i will always remember that the two are separate experiences.

5/5 had a good time

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The best take I’ve seen is “Final Fantasy VII Remake is not a remake of Final Fantasy VII it’s a remake of your memories of Final Fantasy VII.”

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thinking on it I also really like the implication that cloud was so pumped to leave town and join the army at the expense of the world around him that when he came back through he was seemingly even less physically capable than Tifa who’d been the beneficiary of an itinerant martial artist mostly by virtue of not being desperate to leave

really cloud is kind of pathetic in a lot of great ways. is it ever explained how he can even credibly pass as an ex-soldier at the beginning of the story? is it just the mako taster he got that nearly killed him which made him, like, lv7 RPG protagonist strength once he recovered? how did Tifa know he was in town to get him the avalanche contract, presuming that he hadn’t even been present for the most traumatic experience of her life?

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it is definitely explained what is going on with cloud and SOLDIER and his relation with shinra.

Just to be clear, calling it some advent children bullshit on my end stems from it featuring a bunch of continuity nods to characters no one remembers from advent children, and a bunch of capitalized proper nouns plotting meant to bait a bunch of jj abrams mystery box speculation from the players. I love cloud pirouetting 30 feet through the air. I absolutely agree that the denouement realigns from the original in a good way.

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Wait what did I miss

my pithy one liner is that if the original final fantasy vii was a movie, final fantasy vii remake is that movie: the videogame

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the three harbinger whispers in that boss fight: rubrum, viridi, croceo are actually the remnants of sephiroth: kadaj, loz, and yazoo

I had to look up their names

This is the kind of garbage that no one should care about

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Is there a source for that? I had interpreted them as shadow versions of Cloud, Tifa, and Barret

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i dunno what a “jj abrams mystery box speculation” is

I wonder what Final Fantasy is Mylène Farmer’s favourite…

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It was mentioned in that video Sakurina posted. Their reasoning was persuasive, it just comes across as an ill conceived nostalgia impulse to me. The three whispers use the same elements as the AC characters, and their weapons are more similar to the AC characters than to the main trio: left handed sword user, gauntlet on right hand, and two guns. The whispers are also described as entities from a future timeline

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I just think the sephiroth stuff is unearned and needlessly obscure. I was using jj abrams mystery box as a shorthand for that kind of stuff. cf Star Wars Episode 9.