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IGN review makes it sound like RE5
Oh wait! Looks like itâs only $30, I might pick it up then.
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Feeling pretty good about bailing out after the beginning section of The Old Blood tbh
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maybe the bar is just set low for me but I was surprised that the game even went this far. if you read some of the letters from grace it gets pretty explicitly anti-capitalist, too, but itâs kind of buried and I guess they can wave away possible criticism by saying it just represents this minor side-characterâs viewpoint, but I was still surprised at how much anti-imperialism/capitalism they managed to include in the final product. it left the impression on me that at least whoever is writing this game is much further left than your average game dev.
anyway
this new game looks like it might be bad, but does anyone wanna coop with me on PC?
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I have the buddy pass version and Iâm down to coop but not until next Friday.
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Exactly. Itâs not a radical text but it does a fine job of drawing a line in the sand. Letâs not forget that it pissed off many reactionary & racist gamers when it came out. Not the highest bar, but I think we can classify this series separately from The Division, yeah?
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i dont think anybody was trying to say these games arent left-leaning, just not radical enough. which is a fair criticism of p much all videogames, but as i said earlier, it was weird to expect that from a fucking AAA game. the marketing really worked on people i guess. anyway i dont think the new orleans communist guy got enough screen time
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yeah, they couldâve done more with that character, but I donât think they couldâve done more with communism without being pointlessly didactic, as much as I know thereâs a large audience out there that wants to see all art hit the exact same ML notes. it was a really fun character story framed by all this stuff. it had politics that actually felt good undergirding a first-person shooter, which is still incredibly rare.
to say âthe marketing worked on peopleâ is, I think, to attribute way more to the marketing and way less to the routine projections of twitter marxists than makes sense in this case.
my biggest problem if anything is that I feel like they lean in too much on explicitly talking about how awesome killing nazis is, like after awhile it just kind of feels forced like itâs just a cute twitter in joke or something and lessens the impact. like it feels like they just are doing it to âtrigger the alt rightâ or whatever which is fine but still kind of grates after 10 hours.
I donât really play videogames for their politics, it was a pleasant surprise to see any kind of radical leftism represented the way this game did, but nothing more.
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and thatâs just it, speaking as someone who is usually incredibly annoyed by seeing like, basic components of a welfare state and an economy thatâs not in full grinding exploitation mode referred to as âradical,â â most FPS protagonists are radicals, so they actually got to live up to it for a change
also killing nazis is fun and I was getting the exact same adrenaline rush every time they mentioned it after a dozen hours lol
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yeah i meant the marketing worked in the sense that it encouraged online people to imagine that this game was going to be a maoism simulator for some reason because for a lot of people all it takes is saying âfuck nazisâ apparently. for however ultra-woke people on twitter want to believe they are a lot of them heard pete hines say âbeing a nazi is fucking bad this isnt up for debateâ and decided âwow this guy is just like me!!!â which is hilarious. personally im not really sure what they couldve done to make it live up to those expectations, it wouldve been weird if the side documents that were more referential of our political situation were front and center. i just wanted to see more of the commie dude because the cutscene where they introduced him fucking ruled
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yeah they mostly tried to set him up in contrast to BJ right? whereas grace was just âIâm a black panther and Iâm in charge now, fuck yeah,â with the communist guy they were trying to, like, communicate intersectionality as male bonding, where he ribs BJ for being a military boy who probably doesnât get along with anarchists that well unless heâs drunk even though they share the same goals
v good stuff
also maybe an overly swedish way of writing it but let them play to their strengths
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maybe my legit favorite cutscene in that game
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RE complaining about phantom twitter users who thought New Colossus was a Maoism simulator: Show me any other AAA game where you ally with Black Panthers and communists who are portrayed as unflaggingly heroic, in order to fight the far right. This game literally showed Ronald Reagan sucking up to Hitler and then getting shot. The gameâs not fucking The State and Revolution, but it absolutely is at the far left edge of a conservative medium, and much further left than anyone had any right to expect from a big budget studio.
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maoism is an ideology of guerrilla warfare in a pre-industrialized country whereas taking the position that reaganâs assassin shouldâve had better aim in 81 and the black panthers were extremely benevolent is not at all outside the purview of the american left of the past 30 years
conflating the two is excruciatingly stupid
I donât think anyone itt is saying that they are the same thing
but it is pretty awesome that those concepts made it into a AAA big budget shoot man game in 2017
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Maxâs IDD is the best portrayal of disability in any game. Itâs the best bellwether of politics for me. If you can show intellectual/developmental disability with that kind of touch you have the fundamentals right.
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Iâve never seen anyone bring up Maoism in response to the game until this thread, but the fact that this game has anything in it that could be considered âwithin the purview of the american leftâ is seriously noteworthy and I donât see the point of dunking on people who got excited about that.
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yeah, thatâs fair
the idea of people reading mao seriously in 2019 just because they want health insurance does make me a little berserk
and itâs really not great source material for irony posturing
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