Tom's Hardware of Finland

it happened

a mainstream case manufacturer made a SFF ITX case that pretty much rips off the super boutique case designs in the market

too bad it’s 350 bucks because they don’t sell it without the PSU (a 650w gold-rated SFX unti, which is probably 100-130 bucks by itself) and AIO cooler, though NZXT has indicated they would release it separately if there was sufficent interest

I’m very into this. My brother got a Hadron Air when they were on fire sale and I perversely want this to bomb so it too will go on fire sale.

cold day in hell before I build ITX

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how long before wd’s 18tb drives are available to civilians, I’m dying here

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good news

Biostar is making a new H61, LGA 1155 board

it’s mATX as long as you ignore that it’s a whole PCIe slot wider than a standard ITX board

I’m glad they’re making a thing that no one would ever want and I’ll probably buy one on a lark

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Nvidia 7nm is gonna be hot stuff

still looks like close to two full years before Intel is competitive on desktop again though which is very silly

@BustedAstromech @spacetown et al I’m forgetting (sorry) do y’all have insight as to how new boxes will effect the viability of current mid-range PC hardware ~10 TFlops? I am picturing utilization as a liquid that fills its container but that feels wrong.

Felix, do you have new nvidia news? I’m not seeing anything but last month’s wild speculation.

Regarding next-gen vs PC’s, I think the general target will be PC’s of the last four years – so 10TFlops fits easily within spec, though I’d feel weird about <8GB of video memory. If you’re willing to cut resolution to 1440p or 1080p you should be good with weaker cards for years.

There’ll be a lot of cross-gen games (it’s explicitly Microsoft’s strategy), with games jumping ship only to get off the CPUs and memory of last-gen, something that any PC should easily hurdle over.

You’ll probably want to move game installs off of hard disks and onto SSDs; Jedi: Fallen Order already showed really nasty hitching because it couldn’t stream data off the console hard drives fast enough.

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they’re gonna do 20 fp32 tflops in 200w and overclock like crazy

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gosh, they might even be able to handle 4k60

hey, cards can do 4k60 right now

kind of

sort of

maybe

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if you squint a little

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so i should be ok with my mostly midrange late-2016 stuff for a bit longer? don’t really give a fuck about >1080p

i’m thinking to just put aside a bit of cash over the next 18 months or so and see what things are like when the next gen consoles are established

feel free to tag me but I have no idea about any of this stuff jsyk

high end 2016 (basically from pascal on) should be fully comparable to the new console generation in GPU terms (albeit console games have much more aggressive framebuffer LOD because pixel sharpness is less important so you might want some breathing room on a PC)

in CPU terms it’s harder to say because if they have a ryzen 2700 equivalent in there it’s not clear if they have all cores available to games at all times, but I’m hoping I can run my 3570k and titan xp pair through 3/5nm availability at least

yeah this is what i was wondering about really, if it’s going to be a good idea to get an amd then

i want some breathing room because japanese ports, lol

I have a hard time believing Japanese ports could continue to chug the way they’ve done in the past as that’s almost always due to threading / renderer sloppiness and that just can’t happen anymore when all your engines are super parallel and you can run the same directx code on PC as xbox

but that said I don’t have a good sense of when high end games will start flat out requiring eight threads or something comparable

I strongly suspect an upgrade over a well maintained overclocked 2500k+ won’t be necessary until Intel gets their act together, but I wouldn’t buy anything other than a 2700/3600/3700 until then

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:nods:

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but are they going to charge $1000+ for it

Nvidia will charge what the market will bear

continuing evidence shows the market cannot bear AMD, so

:boh:

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