Makes me wanna play The Club
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Donât really know where else to drop this, guess here since the game was just announced. In our âdiscussionâ about âwaifuâ im surprised* we didnât get into how foully transphobic nu-Catherine is (on top of the ways in which it was already foully transphobic)
Persona team fuckin sucks. i wish theyâd stop courting people who unironically use the term âtrapâ (or âwaifuâ for that matter)
(*also disappointed, annoyed)
good christ
edit: actually nvm
I donât think the trailer had dropped yet during that discussion.
I wish I was surprised by like, anything the Persona team does these days.
MULTIBOWL actually came out
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nice! I played it at a show here earlier in the year but IA has been really willing to wade into copyright grey areas lately
or i guess not whoops
EDIT: the internet archive guy said âi hope you were fastâ so i guess it was just up for 45 minutes on purpose which fucking sucks
2018 being the year weâre finally allowed to say this unqualified would be as good a Christmas present as any
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Yeah I think Iâm at about the point where I can also no longer tolerate Persona Team. Somebody steal their UI designer and give them to another studio. Maybe also the composer.
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itâs too much of a liability to officially host, but itâs circulating now
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doesnât work! 
EDIT: it works now
i remember feeling rather alone in my opinion that persona 3 was a game with exceptionally bad writing, or at least that people were much more willing to overlook it basically being a sociopathy simulator at the time it was popular
iâm glad things have moved on since then
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I donât buy that, P3 and 4 were more nuanced games than people are currently giving them credit for. basically every video game that ties human relationships to video game mechanics is âsociopathicâ in a narrow sense, hell I wrote and deleted half an article about that once, but people fixate on persona because persona knows that this is true, one of the appeals of these games is how they negotiate the struggle of personal and social growth in societies that act as if they have more to lose than to gain, so to speak. the answers are always ~anime~ because these are genre games in an already conservative japanese gaming sphere, but they work well within limitations in the way that most great modern japanese games do.
yeah, in P4 kanji isnât great and the portrayal of naotoâs growth isâŚquestionable, but these are good faith errors to me. I donât believe that either character was played for laughs or forced to ânormalize,â I just think the writers took on more than they were capable of handling given their experience, and I donât think they were doing themselves any favors by playing it close to the vest in terms of genre. social marginalization and ambiguity keep playing bigger and bigger thematic roles in the persona teamâs games, to me thereâs a clear interest in going somewhere with this stuff. it wouldnât surprise me if catherine 1.5 made an effort re: transgender issues, but no, it also wouldnât surprise me if it was tone deaf in execution in part because of anime tropes.
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Nope, strongly disagree. This is a game where unlocks in the gameplay portions is explicitly tied to the social links, and P3s in particular were mostly of the sort where you are supposed to tell people exactly what they want to hear. Alternate paths? None. Trying to be, yâknow, a decent person with consistent morals and ethics led to you actually failing at this part of the game. There wasnât even a case of âscolding a dude for being a piece of shit,â which they were at least wise enough to add in at least P5. I donât know about P4.
You do not need to do this to finish the game, no. But if youâre trying to tell me that isnât encouraging sociopathic behavior I will disagree. One could also argue this is absolutely in character given who the protagonist is.
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They literally finish up Kanji and Naotoâs arcs with âyouâre not actually gay or trans, respectively, youâre justâŚunique.â Kanji asks Naoto to dress femininely to prove heâs not gay (since it was his crush on Naoto that made him suspect heâs gay in the first place), and if you date Naoto you can tell her to feminize her gender expression. The sequel materials all go whole hog on Naoto getting expressing more femininely as she gets older, so itâs part of the canon now. They full force walk it all back.
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PersonaâŚsucks!
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how are persona 1/2? iâm much more interested in those than 3/4/5
theyâre journalism simulators