the matrix comes of age

Zak Penn is the screenwriter for the Ready Player One adaptation

This will be more matrix movies from a person who wrote X-Men 3 and adapted Ready Player One

God damn it this franchise’s inherent lameness already makes it nigh indefensible, why is Zak fucking Penn making my job harder

Who’s going to play Neil!?

Neil Automata

1 Like

the matrix movies all really own though?

im having a hard time imagining people being genuinely pissed about the matrix movies

1 Like

you must live in some weird alternate dimension, the second two movies were universally hated to the point where it briefly became hip to like them, then they were completely forgotten. the novelty of their ambition coming in blockbusterville is kind of something, I guess, but the same was basically true of the first movie, which certainly never asked for any sequels. so the question is the same now as it was in 2003 or whenever those were: why? especially now that the “franchise” is about to be jj abrams’ed into bland nothigness

1 Like

i dunno the first movie isn’t completely novel. it’s just kung-fu wirefighting with guns.

the second movie is where it becomes uniquely dumb & entertaining i think? and the ending of the third one is such an amazingly dumb anti-climax.

the matrix movies are the most amazing thing anybody’s ever done with what they learned in their first week of philosophy class and yuen woo-ping choreographed them so i mean…i’d watch that forever i guess.

yeah i dunno why they’re making more though. if the matrix has an extended universe to build on or whatever i could give a fuck.

1 Like

The first movie ends with Neil stepping out of a phone booth and flying up up and away. The Matrix wasn’t so much about doing something brand new as it was dressing up old stuff in black leather, adding some modern subtext*, and a cool soundtrack. John Woo, William Gibson, Ghost in the Shell, and Terminator were all in the '99 nerd cupboard, but seldom all ended up in the same dish.

Second Renaissance used to be my favorite Matrix thing, but upon re-watching it a couple months some of the historical visual nods felt a bit tacky.

*Like someone pointed out earlier in the thread initially a lot of the academic focus on the Matrix was on racial ambiguity. As painfully obvious as the trans themes are now, that all went over a lot of heads. Solid proof we’ve progressed there.

2 Likes

Is this some backward projection caused by all the trenchoat & sunglasses nerds or?

4 Likes

It’s porn for nerds. I like the Matrix, as a whole franchise I mean, but its inherent lameness is impossible to ignore. I like it for that though, its naivete.

2 Likes

Good thread.

8 Likes

julia gfrorer’s comics are really cool, she shows up at a lot of local comics shows in the pnw

sick! my singer loaned me Flesh & Bone one time, that was rad

1 Like

I have that one and Too Dark to See

they really should remake World on a Wire instead

1 Like

No that movie is perfect as it is.

1 Like


8 Likes