I love that M30 but I still had to mod it; the D-pad sits on a plastic bowl and the top was grinding into the bowl as I move cardinal directions.
Opening it up and adding lubrication and a piece of cotton for a spacer seems to have fixed it.
people are insane and have been trained for years by Big Game that d-pads need to be discrete things for when it’s time to hit them to do things in your popular shootman/sportman/fantasyman game
while this is true and it does bug me when I decide to hit a direction hard like I can make that digital signal do even more fasterer, I got used to it and don’t hear it as much because I roll from the center and go with the disc instead of treating it like a cross
anyway, if you need a dpad on the Switch, the Hori dpad joycon for portable use and maybe track down the Hori Pokken pad, which is almost exactly a SNES pad except the shoulders don’t suck (you heard me) and it’s got big, fat, THICC handles because I’m not a child anymore and I need ergonomics
of course, the pad is more or less EOL and any store that carried it in the States cleared it out already (I got mine for 10 bucks a pop, while Gamestop’s website shows their new price is 5 dollars), so, you know, good luck finding one
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I actually feel like bone-headed loyalty to anachronistic designs due to overinflated nostalgia is primarily what allows 8bitdo to make money at all let alone exist 
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Comfortable familiarity is pretty important when it comes to controllers
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everyone: nostalgia for old controller designs is bad
me: what about the Steam controller
everyone: no
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The 25-year-old SNES-pad-with-analog-sticks design is very good and I honestly don’t know what would help it beyond just ergonomic tweaks.
(Gamecube-like variations welcome, but are best served by software designed specifically for them, which runs counter to the market demands of cross-platform portability)
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normal people like me really dont notice ANYTHING people are complaining about in this thread
I couldn’t play shit with joycons, now im good at games on my switch again with an 8bitdo that i dont even know the full name of because i don’t care! it works 4874282 better than what comes with the switch
it is really fun reading people care though! tried, i was like ‘how can i hate this controller that works perfectly for my needs’ but i just cant snob out about it! i cant find anything wrong with it, and the input test didnt have any accidental ups or downs or whatever so maybe im just lucky or maybe youre all fat fingering your dpads and im actually the BEST at videogames with the most finessed fingers
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The only controller I’m not nostalgic for and have no interest in using again is the wiimote and nunchuk.
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I was just thinking the same thing earlier. Like “man, the Wii… really needed two controllers for you to play things”
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The real killer is knowing if I ever feel the urge to play a Wii game I know I’ll have to scrounge up some batteries as well.
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I was thinking about how a lot of later games, or literally any of the virtual console games, required you to play the wiimote sideways (unless you shilled for a classic con which needed to be connected to the wiimote anyway) and how this is like the most atrocious and redundant design decision in the history of controllers because they could have just made a regular ass controller that you could hold AND point at the screen with
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and now joycons do the same fucking thing except they have a joystick instead of a dpad so it’s like a weird tradeoff. sideways joycons are pure evil unless you’re playing like fucking mario kart
but god forbid you try to play puyo with an analog stick that you would otherwise never use
allow me to beg everyone to treat themselves to some eneloops
honestly this wasn’t even true a large majority of the time when the GCN was modern and I feel that the fact that you can use the Gamecube adapter with any game on the Switch further highlights how it’s just a slightly worse interchangeable version of every other controller
but also I won’t use anything else for Smash and can’t help but notice how much better that analog stick feels compared to the pro controller’s (or: I played Groove Coaster with a Gamecube controller on a lark and found out it was better)
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I actually am sorta okay with the Wiimote/Nunchuck combo because I can play from an extremely relaxed posture especially for more slow paced games.
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I like wiimote/nunchik and split joycons in theory
I give the wiimote credit because it actually fits my hand instead of being an abomination of size
too bad only Nintendo cares about motion aiming and other dumb shit
oh they’re definitely evil in this case
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i played smash with a sideways wiimote and it made everyone so angry, how dare i
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yeah so did I, and it was better, because smash is better with a d-pad, like every fighting game
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whatever controller i use first for a fighting game is the way i have to play it. so i totally prefer dpad for a ton of fighting games yea
Unfortunately this is untrue if you play any character that has moves that accept analog inputs (e.g. Fox’s up+b angles)!