SEKIRO: SHADOWS DIE TWICE 💀

cylindrome · March 21, 2020, 2:40am

that’s nothing new for fromsoftware to be fair

Broco · March 21, 2020, 2:43am

Yeah only Demon’s and DkS1 maintain strict bonfire discipline.

LWJoestar · March 21, 2020, 3:24am

god I am so lost

sleepysmiles · March 21, 2020, 3:44am

You are playing the game right, and im kinda jealous in the same way i am of folks playing Dark Souls for the first time

Ashina Castle and the way it unfolds into different areas is GOAT video games level design

LWJoestar · March 21, 2020, 8:34am

Woooo guy character of the year 20-whenever

BustedAstromech · March 21, 2020, 6:08pm

don’t ask me to bury my torch for Demon’s aaaaAAARRGH HELP me
jail guy

sleepysmiles · March 21, 2020, 9:16pm

please… HELP ME

BustedAstromech · March 21, 2020, 9:25pm

reaffirms my belief that games can’t ape traditional storytelling and should instead lean into what they’re really good at

repeating a handful of voice clips until they lodge into players’ skulls

Broco · March 21, 2020, 9:48pm

I briefly forgot that Demon’s Souls has multiple jail guys and the voiceline lodged in my head is from a different one, but anyway you inspired me to make this thread: https://selectbutton.net/t/suspicious-characters-pleading-for-help-thread/

LWJoestar · March 21, 2020, 10:02pm

VERY GOOD
VERY GOOD
VERY GOOD
VERY GOOD

BustedAstromech · March 21, 2020, 10:04pm

LWJoestar · March 22, 2020, 1:26am

So my current barriers are

Land of a Thousand Guns
Poison (feat. Guns)
Genichiro

Not even sure what else at this point, there are so many paths available right now, I can’t even remember what I’ve checked and what I haven’t.

I have 4 necklaces, 3 attack power, 8 healing gourd charges, and 0 skill or idea what to do next.

I explored the Senpou Temple area as thoroughly as I could, but as far as I can tell, it seems to be a dead end? I got to a big building with a giant buddhist statue of some kind and a guy gave me a letter, but if there’s anything else I can do there, I couldn’t find it.

The gunboss down in the poison pit just shreds me, I haven’t the faintest clue what to do there.

Mt. Guns has a copy of the same boss but now with 30 other dudes shooting at me. Cool. Cool.

Please don’t tell me one of the cave ghost guys has something I need to proceed

Felix · March 22, 2020, 1:37am

just start from the statue in the other corner then you can pretty much get to him with a couple of silent kills without alerting anyone else and beat his ass in the corner

LWJoestar · March 22, 2020, 1:41am

I mean

Frame-perfect timing has never been my strong suit in games, so I’m not the best at parrying, and I still can’t tell the difference between the different perilous attacks, so I only ever get them right like 1/3 of the time

all that is to say that, even when I do manage to clean the room out and get the drop on gunboss to get that first health bar stripped off, they still end up just turning around and wiping the floor with me

Felix · March 22, 2020, 1:49am

part of my coming to enjoy the game was giving up entirely on distinguishing the different perilous attack warnings (it seems like too much to even want to learn different specific warnings tbh) and just do a sort of stupid sideways jump for all of them

you can also parry really really sloppily and pretty much do fine if you combine it with forcing your advantage

also that’s more than enough gear to fight genichiro, who is rather easy and satisfying if you’re clicking with the game at all by now

LWJoestar · March 22, 2020, 2:00am

I tried fighting him several times in a row. Just getting my face indented

I managed to get his first bar off, but that was only after using all of my gourd, pellets, and candies

I’m really just not great at the combat. Something about it feels off

jdoe · March 22, 2020, 2:15am

Keep pushing against Genichiro. There’s a phenomenon where people find him near impossible and then suddenly the combat system clicks. You will know when this happens, you will be able to get a deathblow on him without being hit more than 2-3 times. I would not call Genichiro easy, it’s closer to a “Matrix” moment when the games mechanics shift from something you are fighting against to something you are in control over.

cylindrome · March 22, 2020, 5:07am

yeah, i went almost overnight from banging my head against a wall there to virtually being able to beat him in my sleep. you know you’re “in” the game then.

my advice is to rethink the purpose of the attack button: it’s less about scoring hits on your opponent and damaging their vitality (that’s a convenient side-effect) than it is about interrupting their attacks, and maintaining whatever damage you’ve been able to deal to their posture. once you’ve ingrained that as your continuous goal you get into a feedback loop and feel yourself exponentially accelerating toward the deathblow.

sleepysmiles · March 22, 2020, 5:15pm

Just beat Sword Saint Isshin… for the first time hehe. i never actually got him on my first playthrough! I got stuck on his sword phase, started getting too frustrated and wasn’t in a good headspace to play a stressful game so i shelved it

Spent like an hour today trying to fight him and struggling, took a break, came back and stealthed around a bit just to zen out, and then beat him in like 3 tries. I loved it, i think he’s a really fun final boss and i was surprised at how naturally it started to click once i got his sword phase down.

LWJoestar · March 22, 2020, 11:51pm

Genichiro continues to be too much

I can get past his first phase without dying MOST of the time, and can get to Lightning Mode every 4th attempt or so, but MAN is that “lightning reversal” technique buggy as hell

you would think “does the special attack you need to progress actually WORK?” would be pretty high up on the testing priority list but oh well

Also, Shamisen Lady needs to cool it