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sorry mgs2 but I think disco elysium might be the best videogame of all of them currently in existence
DOOM
CHRONO
SMB3
abstain
EARTHBOUND
NOCTURNE??
LSD
F-ZERO
easy
Doom
Vs
Nier
In both games, you can watch the bullets as they approach and dodge them if you’re dexterous enough. Only Nier let’s you drift a boar.
FOR NOW
wait till i learn how to mod
the feeling i had on getting to the choice for my third ending of nier was that there was no choice. i didn’t care, i had to make something good happen for someone. i skipped getting one of the endings and don’t regret that at all. doom is great too but nier is my choice.
dragon’s dogma is a compulsion for me and i need to have my ds4 repaired sometime so i can go back and finish bitterblack isle. i kinda just love moving around and exploring that world, and i’m also one of the people who likes the (melee) combat but maybe i created movesets i like? also, please believe me when i say the ending is so worth it!
quake is the point where i started getting annoyed playing first person shooters and i’ve got problems getting into games from that period. i love the mood but it feels like what i do is strafe back and forth from a corner taking potshots for half a minute… against regular enemies. also i love smb3 
my laptop would go up in flames if i even tried running disco, so would someone be interested in simulating it for me by streaming it and letting me do the choices? yes, i really am this desperate. if i don’t get to play it i’m voting mgs2. i mean i might anyway cause i love that game, but rn it’s a definite.
i love gimmick. earthbound is fun.
nothing to say about smt3, it’s just one of the best. missed opportunity by nintendo to not have atlus put in a mario frost or something in the switch version.
i love lsd but yeah i guess god hand is even better.
bloodborne is the game for the part of my brain that thinks haunted shit is the most beautiful stuff ever, the part that thinks the visceral action is really satisfying and the part that starts crying thinking about any mildly tragic implied thing. it hits right.
also rom is a sweetie and i always feel bad about killing her 
you can just hang out with her forever, she doesn’t care until you start shit.
I don’t feel so good… Urr…
Chrono Trigger
vs.
Dragon’s Dogma
I really ought to play Dragon’s Dogma. Developers from Devil May Cry and Darkstalkers make an action RPG. It has to be good. But the pedigree for Chrono Trigger is absurd. idk, it’s too obvious a choice but I gotta do it.
one more god rejected
NIER
I think the influence argument is going to come up here in favour of Doom (as well as the sheer number of mods) but Nier is more special to me as an experience. I admire it’s weirdness and it’s attempts to mash genres together into a somewhat unpleasant pâté. Nier is fascinating because of its attempt to make an explicit connection between the messiness of language and the objective duality present in so many games. Not just in terms of morality but purley looking at the world in sets of states. Camera angles lock to their conventional places in Nier, NPCs are either quest-givers or enemies, a bullet either hits you or it doesn’t, we can change the world’s fate but only through collecting all the weapons. Facade is a society practically built on this nonsense, an attempt to codify the messiness into a way of life. Doom is a good time but Nier gets my vote.
CHRONO TRIGGER
I haven’t really played Dragon’s Dogma. I mean, I’ve played it but for like 2 hours. I find pawns a horrifying concept and early combat felt more difficult than it needed to be. Great character creator and cool night/day stuff but Chrono Trigger does a lot of headturning stuff as well and is generally more accessible.
QUAKE
I don’t like SMB3 very much so the default vote goes to Quake. Fond memories playing Quake on a primary school PC.
METAL GEAR SOLID 2: SONS OF LIBERTY
I couldn’t get very far into Disco Elysium because my computer just refused to run it for more than 20 minutes. It seems like the kind of game I’d love if I could get further in and I might revisit it on Switch or something. MGS2 is a special game but is probably less provocative than Disco Elysium and I genuinely hate its pacing. I think it’s probably my least favourite MGS other than 5 because its success is mostly down to it being an interesting sequel rather than an interesting game in its own right. I can’t think of many great moments of gameplay other than the Fatman fight and the tanker section. Swimming sections, E.E. sniping, freezing bombs, fighting 25 Rays, fighting Vamp, even Arsenal Gear. I didn’t want to do any of this then or now. The good stuff is in the framing and what MGS2 means more broadly. Could go either way but MGS2 is my vote for now.
EARTHBOUND vs. GIMMICK!
I haven’t played either but they both are doing similar stuff in their respective genres. Abstain or maybe vote based on the arguments I see.
SHIN MEGAMI TENSEI III: NOCTURNE vs. SUPER MARIO BROS.
This is rough because I’m hyped to play Nocturne but haven’t. I don’t wanna just default vote SMB even though I think it’s probably my favourite 2D Mario. Not sure I can argue it’s the best one (although I enjoy it more than 3). From what I’ve seen of Nocturne it looks more ‘my thing’ than SMB is and SMB is kind of a vanilla candidate in this race. Leaning towards Nocturne here.
GOD HAND
God Hand is just such a fucking good game. I haven’t played LSD so I can’t honestly compare the two but they both seem to be doing interesting stuff. God Hand is just an unbridled dream game that carries the torch for how non-standard analogue stick mapping can push a genre forward. I think about every single move at least once per year. OST is killer too.
F-ZERO GX
I really feel Bloodborne is overrated and that people like it more for its style and theming than anything. I know I’m probably wrong but I’ve never been able to fully see the appeal. I find combat frustrating, the camera sucks for bosses of a certain size, stat choices are meaningless if not downright misleading for the first half, and you don’t get enough weapon variety until the second half by which point you’ve dumped resources into a starting weapon. It continues the Souls series’ decline into boss battles that just ravage the player, forcing strategies that essentially cheese it. Chalice dungeons make sense thematically but I never want to play one again. I could rant about it all day but I don’t wanna just be cranky about it. I like some of the more kooky things like Micolash or the classic vibe of Cainhurst. I feel like I should try and replay it although my last attempt at this was frustrating.
F-Zero GX meanwhile is excellent but also a little too hard. The key question here for me is does F-Zero GX need to be unforgiving to be the kind of game it is? Fast as hell and living within an inch of death. I never completed story mode but I played it a hell of a lot longer than I did Bloodborne. Custom ships were kinda neat too. I like to think that there hasn’t been an F-Zero since because they realise that GX just got it right. We also have very few racing reps and I think there could actually be a case for GX winning this whole thing.
Katamari vs. F-Zero GX will break me in half
I hope so
GX is great but i can’t sanction it as, like, “perfect” or anything
it’s a significant departure in tone from f-zero x, and while it is extremely great, it is kind of a mixture of sega ideas with f-zero x. f-zero x has been consistently overshadowed by gx, but it’s roughly on par - i actually prefer x mechanically.
anyway i don’t want to believe all future f-zeros (if any ever arise) will just be riffing on gx because x is pretty much equally good and far more “f-zero” to me, whereas gx is a beautiful chimera of sega racing feel and f-zero x
Yeah GX certainly isn’t perfect. I need to check out F-Zero X now. Is there a best version?
n64 is the only version that matters. it was released under virtual console for wii and wii u with 480p support, but the input is broken (inaccurate deadzone, 6-bit digital “stepping” because of a flaw in how wii/u read classic controller inputs (note: hypothetically avoided if using a gamecube controller)) and there is inherent latency. if you don’t have an n64 just play it using retroarch’s latest mupen64plus core. the expansion kit is also neat but isn’t necessary until you’ve exhausted the vanilla content
F-Zero X is amazing, I love that game as well. I like the maximalist take of F-Zero GX significantly better but, I also think Sonic Adventure is the best Sonic game so that’s no surprise.
GX is the one exception to my rule to not vote for a Nintendo.
I was never able to play any of the F-Zero games after the SNES one. I’d immediately fly right off the track every time. I am terrible at driving games in general.
But that becomes irrelevant to me in the face of Bloodborne anyway. Here is a screenshot I took in Bloodborne.
SHE IS SUCH A DARLING JUST LOOK AT HER
I only have the virtual console version of F-Zero X as i think it was the virtual console game you could redeem that month when all my various Nintendo points of some sort were about to expire, so when you say broken do you mean it is inaccurate compared to the original version, or broken in that it isn’t all that playable? I was gonna play it some day as, you know, it is saved onto the system but if it is the latter I can easily just forget it exists and move on to GX instead.
