the dialogue in Heart of the Sea being dumb does not make the dialogue in The Revenant not dumb 8)
(the whale action wasn’t very good either imo)
(the book is really good have you read the book?!))
you mean moby dick?
jk, no i haven’t but i kind of want to now
also i hardly remember any of the talking from the revenant. the only way i would have improved that movie would have been by taking out all the subtitles for the foreign languages and making every english speaker as unintelligible as young picard / mad max
New movie looks pretty good, though I object to the framing of Winston as a scientist, unless we’re taking the video game as canon oh god, I’m one of those nerd assholes now, aren’t I
(before anyone jumps me, as a brown person, Winston was always my #1)
Anyway, I like the production design and most of the comedy seems on point, upgrading from “cautiously optimistic” to “will see in 2D”
Master and Commander is not pulling the Refnlike artmovie moves of The Revenant but is still a really good and enjoyable movie about dudes what are in sailboats. There’s a whole sideplot about a Darwinian naturalist who gets to visit the Galapagos and nerd out.
Who says you’re supposed to like it?
I like how some anger has shifted from “Female Ghostbusters” to “of course the black Ghostbuster isn’t a scientist”
Still can’t be any worse than GB2
y’all gb2 is not that bad at all. it’s more ‘family friendly’ than 1 but it still has some really funny bits.
new gb looks dumb from the trailer, and it seems like the characters are a little to caricature-y to make it a worthy successor, but i’m hoping that they will be able to capture a little bit of the low energy good vibes that made the first one so pleasant? perhaps.
at any rate kate mckinnon and leslie jones are hilarious and should be in more movies
GB2 is an okay movie but doesn’t exist in a vacuum and is a bad follow up to the original, a movie it essentially retreads. Honestly, GB is kind of a sparse film but works because of the chemistry of the cast and Harold Ramis reigning in Ankroyd’s script. GB2 tried to capture that lightning and failed on a massive scale. New GB at least looks like they aren’t trying to be beholden to the idea of a GB plot, even though they seem to be going in the same direction with a few story beats.
In short, I would rather have a bad new take than a mediocre retread.
If you can’t remember ghost train, childhood me and you can’t be friends
God the bwooong EDM remix is awful.
It’s very hard for me to put my feelings for Ghostbusters into words. I think it might be the smartest movie ever made. It’s the final form of the 80’s action-scifi-comedy-romance allmovie which is a thing they don’t make any more (see also: Short Circuit, Back to the Future, Bill & Ted, et cetera and so forth - the last good one was MIB which I really think captured a lot of Ghostbusters lightning in a bottle - there have been a couple attempts but they have been bad [like that RIPD movie] and I think overserious Marvel movies have unfortunately colonized this space [ok also GotG was pretty alright but a little too Marvel to really qualify]). The perfect chemistry of the cast; the scientific precision of each smirk and raised eyebrow; the pure Americanness of turning provable encounters with the afterlife into an EPA-resistant small business; the glorious visual effects; the way it strays from 3-act pacing; the way the leads in 115 minutes build themselves from people into archetypes and break back down into people again. It’s at the heart of a weird Venn diagram between Flight of the Navigator, Blues Brothers, and Groundhog Day. I can’t personally think of a movie that would be designed for me to love it more. His Holiness the Highest of Camp.
So yeah, Ghostbusters 2 doesn’t hold a candle and this new one seems ok I guess.
Ghost train, slime tongue bathtub, Peter MacNicol doing that weird accent and The World of the Psychic with Dr. Peter Venkman…
Yeah I don’t know what everyone’s been smoking I think GB2 is just as good as the first. I might hold this opinion because it was the first Ghostbusters I saw after the cartoon. I mean, the first one is great as well I think they’re both great movies.
The new one I’m not sure about. The trailer was alright and the ghosts look good but it felt like they were playing it too safe. I want to see how they bring in the older cast members and what kinds of roles they end up having.
Pretty sure everyone living is confirmed for cameos at the least except for Rick Moranis
If you had only ever seen the cartoon before seeing (which could conceivably be a lot of us), I can see liking it since it plays like an extended episode of the show. But that also means the pretty awesome characterization of the original also suffered and, well, the more toyetic nature of some of the production design (seriously, why did Ecto-1A have the goddamn GB2 logo, it doesn’t make any sense).
Buckaroo Banzai?
I dunno, I like Ghostbusters sure but I always go back to BB as the perfected form of 80s high-camp hyper american movie that works as the ‘action-scifi-comedy-romance allmovie’. The novelization might be even better because it’s littered with apocryphal references to the rest of the non-existant franchise and feels like an artifact from the parallel universe where therre are dozens of Buckaroo Banzai spin-offs.
I love Buckaroo Banzai, so we’re comparing greatness to greatness here, but actually it’s the mainstreamness of Ghostbusters that catapults it to the top. You’re right that BB is more specifically camp than GB is, but I dunno. No Bill Murray.
I also watched Ghostbusters once a day for like a year when I was 4 years old, so I may not have an entirely objective view on this subject.
same essentially, though i don’t think i was ever quite as obsessed. but that’s why even though i get the intellectual/critical consensus re: gb2 being inferior, it is still the one i actually got to see in a movie theater and for that reason is still just as iconic to me
fun fact: i understood conceptually that ghostbusters was a comedy, but did not actually experience it as such until probably the 10th time i had seen it. like, i just didn’t get that there were “jokes” beyond people getting slimed occasionally, expressed mainly through dialogue and character stuff, i was just too dumb to get it.
there’s something to be said for a film that works equally flawlessly as both pure entertainment for sugar addicted children as well as a pretty good 80’s bill murray comedy for people who like to laugh at actors saying funny shit to each other
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All is Lost?
Yeah! Iwant to watch both All is Lost as well as master and commander, and also apparently that one directed by the guys that are somehow doing the next Pirates of the Caribbean movie (???) forgot what it’s called.
I need to figure out how to do those three things.