methods of input (Part 1)

ROG Chakram
Lexip Pu94
Swiftpoint Z, Tracer
Roccat Tyon, Nyth, Leadr, Kiro, Aimo

lol

Wow, they reinvented PS2-style pressure-sensitive buttons. I guess theyā€™re good for the people who know they want it.

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incidentally analogue buttons have been in a variety of specs for a long time, seems like everybody knows the PS2 had them but so did the OG Xbox and PS3 pads, not that theyā€™re really much fun in application

seems a little weird that all these manufacturers ship bespoke tools that require you to get elbow deep in per-title configuration for what usually ends up being a bad experience anyway, but power 2 the player i suppose

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I suppose once people started taking to programming LED light shows the gates were open

while we hereā€¦

WootingOne, WootingTwo
CoolerMaster MK850, ControlPad
Razer Orbweaver, Tartarus, Tartarus v2, Tartarus Pro
Belkin Nostromo, N50, SpeedPad, N52 SpeedPad, N52TE
Saitek PZ31A Pro Gamer Command
GameSir VX AimSwitch, AimSwitch 2
Logitech G13

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One of the default configs for the analog switches is to make e.g. a half depress W and a full depress shift-W to sprint

Itā€™s such a weird device

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https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108472.0

Now I want a trackball for under my spacebar.

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8BitDo Pro 2 showed up. Itā€™s good. I still hate Bluetooth pairing but the button action is great.

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I got my 8BitDo Pro 2 yesterday. Itā€™s a disappointment for me because unlike the last generation it no longer supports iOS in any of its modes. (It was unclear before trying to pair it ā€“ ā€œApple modeā€ got renamed to ā€œMac OS X modeā€ in the manual but itā€™s still referred to with the letter ā€œAā€ on the back of the controller.) So my dream of One Controller To Rule Them All remains deferred.

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wait what? thatā€™s definitely an accident/oversight. thereā€™s an iOS app for it!

I wonder if the problem is actually the iOS reprogramming app. Previous gen basically tricked iOS into supporting it by pretending to be a PS4 controller. Maybe they couldnā€™t do that kind of shenanigan anymore if they wanted Apple to approve their app for the store

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I got mine working in Sonic 2 on iOS 14.5 by going to settings ā†’ accessibility ā†’ switch control ā†’ switches and pairing using the Bluetooth there. You can turn off switch control after you pair it.

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the pro2 isnā€™t out here until next week for some reason but i think with my use case of pc + switch and nothing else it probably can be the One True Controller, can finally get rid of the three i swap between now

howā€™s the dpad??

Itā€™s good! Feels closest to a SNES or N64 pad but with more tactile bump on rolling over it.

My only misgiving is the pad isnā€™t as ergo as it could be because itā€™s following the SNES pad dimensions - sides could be slimmer for wrapping smallish hands around. Itā€™s been a little fatiguing for Hitman but Iā€™m a marginal case d/t arthritis. (cc @OneSecondBefore tho)

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i wonā€™t get another Pro+/2 because they havenā€™t fixed the ergonomics! but it is a pretty solid pad otherwise. i use the xbox series pad for most standard pad configurations because itā€™s generally better for what i want to use it for.

the m30 has slightly bad ergonomics (could use more purchase underneath) but itā€™s not horrible, the sn30 pro series really lacks in that regard

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Yeah, this lip exists only for nostalgia/marketing purposes

Iā€™m looking at tearing it down* to see if I can print a replacement top case that bevels it but I think the PCB might (unnecessarily) extend to the edge.

The back buttons and four way pairing/mapping switch are killer features.

* torx screws are a weird move from them

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what kind of nuisance move is torx adoption at this point even

itā€™s like a kickback to ifixit

anyway I think that controller is pretty hideous even if itā€™s like, a maturation of their designs to date, it has no identity at all

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Nintendo uses philips on Switch controllers. A whole lot of people opening up controllers may not have $10 to spend on specialty screwdrivers.

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These are on their arcade stick as well, which is hilarious because they brag about it being simple and easy to mod. Having to go find something other than a phillips to unscrew an arcade stick is kinda the opposite of that.

This is always my kinda problem with their stuff; their identity is so tied to ā€œlooks like that other thing you likedā€. Like I love the arcade stick, but it also is just so clearly aping the Advantage for style that it annoys me. I am waiting on some buttons to swap in to make it look a little less like that, then iā€™m just putting stickers and suck all over it to distance it more.

I still have my Advantage; I didnā€™t need another one.

I like the stick because the light-up button labels and the bluetooth support are both really really good, itā€™s comparatively very cheap and small, and Iā€™m a bit of a wireless obsessive

definitely swap the buttons though itā€™s a no-brainer