Destiny (2) 3.4: ...And The Horse With No Name You Rode In On

i have cleared the vault of glass in destiny 2.

we have come full circle.

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Hey I bought Destiny 2 when it came out and played through the campaign. I told my friends it’s free now so they should download it and play through that same campaign with me.

It sounds like Bungie deleted the campaign. What is this game now? Is there anything for my friends to do? Do I still have access to anything?

Also, when I loaded up my old character, they started me out on a mission in the middle of an ice planet. I played just a few minutes, closed the game, came back to it later in the day and they started me out on a different mission in some kind of space church. Best I can reckon, these are like introductory missions for new chapters or seasons? And you don’t have to finish them? And they don’t bother explaining any of this?

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They “vaulted” four destinations (Titan, Io, Mercury, and Mars) and the first year of content when Beyond Light came out. They’ve clarified since that it wasn’t so much deletion as declining to port the old content to the new engine to triage work during COVID.

The F2P game is the beginner campaign in the Cosmodrome (new free destination) and access to playlist content, e.g. strikes, crucible (except Trials), and gambit. The Vault of Glass raid is also free, as are the seasonal events (e.g. Festival of the Lost for Halloween, Dawning for winter holidays, etc.)

The “campaigns” in the game now are tied to each expansion: Forsaken, Shadowkeep, and Beyond Light. Each of those have other associated quests, weapons, etc. You still have anything tied to those but they are a la carte for new players.

There’s also the $10 season pass that includes a matchmade activity, quests, and story content.

The ice planet intro is Beyond Light (latest expansion) and the space church intro is the current season. This has been the norm for the past year or so but IIRC both missions are preceded by a cutscene/dialogue setting up the story so far.

Regardless of whether you’ve bought the expansion or season you can play the first mission of each.

Apologies if this comes off dry. I just have already made peace with how the game has changed and have no interest in “defending” it. Happy to explain it, though.

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Of the three campaigns, Forsaken is the only one that really stands on its own as a campaign. It really ought to be F2P by now but c’est la vie.

Thanks for all that. I think this is the first games-as-a-service game I’ve purchased where I treated it as a single player thing and then lost access to the bit I was interested in. I can’t believe it happened to me.

My group’s been playing Borderlands 3, which to me feels like just a worse all-around experience than what I remember of Destiny 2. I’d really like to find a new co-op shooter for us, but it seems like everything emphasizes progression, complex systems, and constant engagement now. We just want to shoot things for an hour a night.

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Had been playing this with my buddy and while sometimes the shooting actually feels good, and they have finally started delivering on the “million different guns” promise in a more robust way, everything else about it sucks so hard.

We started playing Ground Branch instead and haven’t looked back

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BL3 sucks so much shit!! i loved shooting things in it and i liked some of the guns but yeah everything else is fucking miserable!!!

i couldn’t stop thinking of my 20-30 hours with Destiny 2 back when it first launched!!! it was so much better than BL3

See also: Division 2, The.

You can definitely still do this and ignore the complexity. Give the strike playlist a shot – unlike before every strike is in the F2P playlist regardless of when it came out.

The complexity is there for people who want it because they vocally complained that the game was too “flat” progression-wise but the way Bungie built out the late game systems means you’re just playing a harder difficulty level. Think Halo on Legendary All Skulls On. You’re not missing out unless that’s your thing.

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I also forgot to mention that the Prophecy dungeon (3 player raid in miniature) is free and definitely a good showcase of the mechanical and aesthetic strengths of D2. Don’t start there but it’s probably the single best free PvE activity.

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i’ve been getting back into destiny with some buds and they mostly play about two hours a night (shout out to @zombieman000) and well i guess we all grok it to different degrees but we’re moving along. it does seem a little more bewildering to get onboard than i even thought it would at this point! i have huge appetite for almost all of it so i’m ok but one of my buds did bounce off almost immediately

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Yeah, I’ve been slow in understanding things and the pvp or any competitive element is probably not for my no-reflex ass but I like the endorphin hits of shootmans and new gear. I definitely lasted a lot longer than I thought I would. Wish it was a bit more clear what is and isn’t f2p/included in their content bundles

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You can just load up with your f2p buddies and do strikes.

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Hard to overstate how refreshing it was to shed all semblances of progression and narrative and just pick exactly what I want to do and then do it. I guess this is not an interesting revelation though, it’s just a cycle we all go through on our own time.

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destiny is really good right now, and i want to be playing it, but i’m just not in the mood for first person shooting.

this is such a strange plane of existence for me.

For me, part of it is the negative motivational influence of “maybe i don’t wanna play this content right this second” while Destiny tells me “it’s gonna be deleted soon! better get on it!”. Seasonal model is fucking poison.

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I actually don’t know - are this year’s seasonal storylines getting vaulted when Witch Queen comes out? I’ve enjoyed having them stick around because I don’t feel rushed but they should definitively say when you won’t be able to do them anymore. It’s also weird if e.g. Season of the Hunt is around for twelve months but Season of the Lost is around for six.

Hunt, Splicer, and Chosen definitely are; their achievements and content have “going away at the end of season 15” all over them. Lost, I’m not sure.

Damn, that sucks. They ought to make that really obvious like Arrivals. That was kind of fun, wrapping stuff up. And by “fun” I mean, “I hate Spire of Stars.”

I kinda miss Spire because once someone told me “supering removes your instakill stacks” it made the hardest phase (juggling the balls behind the throne while waiting for DPS to start) like 9999% easier.