#CYBERPUNK 2077 💻

I feel like you can watch Gibson’s political arc towards political nihilism / neoliberalism happen as you read his books. by the mid 90s I dont think Id even call them punk anymore just weird novelties that predicted the future in disturbing ways. I was just reading one about a guy using online shopping metadata to predict a suicide among other things. (It was written in 1996.)
Though in all his fiction his characters seem to be of their time and aren’t thinking big picture for the most part.

But we should also consider the landscape of the time the original trilogy was published. Was simply suggesting that capitalism leads to mass decay “radical enough” at the time? To that point in time dystopian fiction was about centralized power run amok. I dont think it is now if the goal is to get people thinking and not just write about the way sand blasted plastic sheeting diffuses neon lighting and Im honestly unsure of which was a greater focus.


Im hoping they catch a clue before release and continued criticism is helping on that front.

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I relate to Gibson insofar as I can be a bit of a streetwear dork when left alone overlong

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Cayce in Pattern Recognition was written as completely steeped in but physically sickened by consumerism. I think she works as a metaphor for a lot of people I know.

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I totally love the aesthetics and manufactured goods fetishization aspects of the writing style. I appreciate the idea that the material reality of a place and its people are in a feedback loop with the story and culture unfolding around you. I don’t like it called “consumerism” though that is part of it. Personally I obsess all over wear patterns on objects in public spaces so hearing about wear in a Gibson novel is kind of comforting.

Im an obsessive repair person but mainly because I need an excuse to take everything apart and feel like Im beating the system. Clothes are an extension of that though I haven’t ever been able to get good at sewing.

Do we even have a fashion thread?

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the only true cyberpunk option

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yes

it’s cool, because literally all of the bullshit will be a footnote in every eventual review of the game, as if a bunch of racism and transphobia both on and off screen is no different than a framerate hiccup, and gog will do another shitty tweet like “actually, it’s about ethics in good game discounts,” and we’ll deal with another solid year of harassment, shitty right winger articles and monetized youtube videos acting as though we’re literally on a crusade to end video games forever and how we’re the real snowflakes, and one or more games writers will call anyone taking cdpr to task for this shit “tedious” like they did when all the rockstar shit was coming out, and it’ll still end up at #6 or #7 on a bunch of giant bomb goty lists and :weary: :weary: :weary: :weary: :weary:

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A crusade to end videogames forever would be immensely cyberpunk

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end videogames forever

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this entire ordeal is going to be more cyberpunk than the game so im excited to give a swirlie to the first moron who writes about how “meta” cdpr being terrible is

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cayce having a literal, physical aversion to consumerism and marketing is the most william gibson shit in the world and i love it so much. as an adult i honestly like pattern recognition more than neuromancer. its certainly more relevant

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We were robbed of that Peter Weir adaptation.

They should get Assayas.

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Whoa, Peter Weir was supposed to do Pattern Recognition!?

I’m not usually one to clamor for book to film adaptations, but I would have loved to have seen whatever Earl Mac Rauch had planned for Neuromancer in the late 80s. I would have been all in on a weird Buckaroo Banzai-style comedy adaption.

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At least we got Johhny Mnemonic…?

(bringing this back to Keanu)

And I’m just going to throw out that I like William Gibson. He’s a good writer and I’m not about to criticize someone I don’t know, who isn’t overtly political, for what I perceive as their politics. Life and people are more complicated than that.

(I don’t have a problem with critique of his work)

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Oh, if you follow his twitter you find out that he IS overtly political

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william gibson is very open about being a whiny hillaryman

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Oh, I just read some of his books…

There are probably conclusions that can be drawn from a person’s social media posts, but even then I hesitate. But still, point taken.

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most of his writing is fine, honestly. trump being elected really broke his brain; hes writing a book about an alternate 2017 where hillary clinton won now. its very embarrassing and he should log off. maybe go outside a little

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tbh I wish we had a better word than “neoliberal” for this (I am very grateful whenever virgil on chapo interjects to clarify that its effective meaning is “whatever you don’t like”) because there’s a difference between being a broken third way apologist crank like gibson or whedon (70 is kind of old for this, mind; it’s extremely common among people who were born in the 60s) and being like an actual corporatist and I feel like the nuance is lost when it’s the same word we use to describe political missteps in the wolfenstein franchise

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i mean regardless of what he believes in practice hes supporting neoliberal policies which is why i used it. i agree its largely meaningless now even though the posting-as-warfare pundit class would have you believe its a slur. wolfenstein is just typical centrist liberal bullshit, stop misusing words you gamer swine!!

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