just because they can get away with it doesn’t mean it’s good.
like it seems to me that their mindset is to make their laptop and desktop devices more appealing to mass market users who already buy iphones and ipads, like they want that market to start buying laptops and desktops again, and I don’t see that happening. and I see it compromising the usefulness of their laptops and desktops to the people that actually are using them today.
maybe I’m wrong maybe I’m dumb I’ve been wrong and dumb many times before.
all of the downsides to this (refusing to design for modern intel/nvidia thermals, requiring app signing to increasingly onerous degrees, deprecating 32-bit compatibility) already happened! all that remains is upside!
What does onerous app signing have to do with a move to arm? That’s purely a move to make the walls of their garden higher so they can skim more off of the software market
I think I’m going to go big and finally upgrade from my old Radeon HD 7850 after 8 years of service. I think the plan is to aim high and get something that’ll eventually move into a new machine when it finally comes time to put the i7-3770 to bed.
I assume the new card’s going to be a bit hampered because my current board won’t support pci-e 4, but that’s not a total deal breaker right?
there isn’t a GPU on the market that can bottleneck PCIe 3 yet (new Nvidia stuff might but honestly it’ll be close even at maximum throughput), so nothing to worry about there
But I’d wait for August/September if you’re looking at the $300+ range, we’ll have new generation cards from AMD & NVidia (lower-end will shift but it might take a few more months for those cards to come out and move that range)
yes but it’s consistent with existing requirements on iOS and the arm move also incentivizes them laying the groundwork for, say, Linux builds of Unity games to be able to run with a single click 18 months from now without needing notarization
They didn’t fix the downside, it still sucks just as much as it did before the arm announcement. It doesn’t incentivize them to do shit that doesn’t put more software under their control. This slow creep towards putting all computing under their completely opaque control sucks and it’s not worth the improved performance per watt or whatever. Basically all of the things this forum is interested in are hurt by these signing requirements. The downside is ongoing, it didn’t stop just because you wrote a script to build retroarch for yourself.
I’m pretty sure they’re actively and deservedly shedding market share among creatives at the moment for these exact reasons and Google is getting into the make-your-own-ARM-chipsets game so that battle is far from over
I’m not trying to give them cover, but I actually am very excited about the ARM switch despite all of their other bullshit and I don’t really understand the defensiveness people have around architectures controlled by companies who are totally stagnant. I could see it if Apple controlled the ARM instruction set or even de facto controlled it to the extent they do web standards but they don’t!
the only card that bottlenecks because of a lower PCIe version is the 5500XT, which bottlenecks because it’s wired as an 8x card which means on 3.0, it doesn’t get enough bandwidth if you get the 8GB variant
I don’t give a shit about intel, but treating this notarization bullshit as some necessary annoyance that we’ve overcome on the march to a glorious arm future is glossing over the very real problems that a monopolisitc app store model has. Apple may not control the arm isa but they sure as fuck control the secure enclave that is required to actually use the hardware, and they are actively using that power to further entrench themselves as digital landlords.
ok but steam is just as bad in that respect and people tend to get very agita about apple specifically
platforms are expensive and there’s been no real further encroachment of the app store model on the Mac, iOS is a different story but given the allowances they make for people who know what they’re doing with open source stuff I would be pretty satisfied if they just lowered their revenue take
Valve sucks too but they don’t sell you hardware that can only run software they approve of
And apple is very obviously trying to move software on macos to be all from the app store. That’s the whole point behind this notarization shit! Are going to tell me with a straight face that it’s a move designed to improve the lives of the actual end user?
no I’m saying it clearly is not working at all as they’ve been at it for years and it’s gone nowhere so I don’t look at it as any kind of threat
you can self-distribute notarized apps just like you could with earlier gatekeeper signing and everyone does
with the exception of AAA games, I can run more software I like on my mac than I can on windows or linux. it has been thus for 15 years. if other platforms had better APIs and better developer communities maybe that wouldn’t be the case, but it’s harder to get paid on other platforms even with apple’s exorbitant take.
I don’t think their failure to app store-ize the entire macos software market so far means that this move that just so conveniently allows them to put up even higher walls isn’t part of a strategy to capture more of it. Is that the only reason they’re doing it? No. But they’d be damn fools to not take advantage of the opportunity and work they’ve done so far, and I would not count on altruism from one of the biggest, most profitable companies in the world. You’re coming straight at the heart of capitalism here.
can you clarify how moving architectures helps them with the app store thing? I’m not sure I follow the reasoning. you already aren’t really allowed to compile to macOS from other platforms.
