The Sega Saturn Came Out Today

Nov 22nd 1994. I got it from twitter and will assume it is true. So someone else confirm is this the day of that horrible press conference or just the JP Release?

That’s nuts. I played Sougyuukurentai for the first time this morning and was greeted with this screen.

Would have been cool to play it last night. And some of you still have time. It is a very good shooter that I somehow never owned in my previous Saturn ownerships when even now it only goes for about 40 bucks.

Does it have an infuriating scoring system I sure don’t want to know! Does it make me want to buy Radiant Silvergun a game with an infuriating everything and I already own it on 360? Yes.

Did nerds for years hold RS up because it was by Treasure and we never got it? I find it’s powerup and scoring system (kind of the same thing) inscrutable. The games that go for way more than it does Blast Wind and Hyper Duel are way cooler shooters and hey this one I am playing now (name too long to type) is also ST-V.

They also reuse so much of RS for Ikaruga and Ikaruga is nearly perfect.

I am going to feel pain I didnt get that Zap 98 but I was with my wife and she was already mad at me for buying a 150 yen Chocobo action RPG for the DS.

Current Saturn Wishlist
Keio 2
Burning Rangers
Darius Gaiden
Metal Black (Specifically the sunbleached copy at Akiba SuperPotato it is beautiful.)

I owned all those games before. I just have a disease that is buying Saturn games again. Already owning these and a price barrier is keeping my hunger (hinger???) at bay.

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I flashed an action replay and played through the first two discs of the Policenauts translation recently (disc 3 was a bad burn that I still haven’t redone). The Saturn’s pretty rad.

Despite the CD-R-ability of my mod cart, I’ve been drawn to the import game rack. Everything looks so text heavy though.

whoa whoa whoa what’s this

pretend i don’t have access to google

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It’s a mod called pseudosaturn. You burn a CD-R if it, disc swap it, then use it to reflash a memory cart or action replay. The reflashed cart will let you boot CD-Rs or JP games without disc swapping as long as you start the console with it in.

Disc swapping was some scary business. I opened up the console and taped down the tray state button. And then I had to wait for x number of laser sweep clicks. It took me a couple tries to pull off.

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there’s also a surgery you can perform to replace your saturn’s cd drive with an sd card slot.

i’ve said it many many times before, but the 360 port of radiant silvergun lets you use the scoring system from ikaruga, making a game that’s better than both ikaruga and the original radiant silvergun.

darius gaiden is an unsung hero of the saturn library

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The 360 version of RS (if you own Ikargua on the 360, because…ugh) makes the combo system much more manageable, and therefor makes the scoring/powerups, and therefore makes it a much better version than the Saturn one. I wish they would just PC port it already. Oh shit I just saw that Loki got this. High 5 Loki.

Disc swapping on my US saturn was really easy. I still don’t know why it freaked everyone out so much. I mean, I get that it maybe wears the laser down (a totally valid concern), but otherwise it was just so easy to do.

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If you don’t really care about the scoring system, is RS on the 360 worth it over emulating? Also, what’s wrong with the 360 version of Ikaruga?

The 360 version is great but if you don’t care about the extra scoring mechanics stuff they add in I can’t think of a reason to get it over emulation. As for the 360 version of Ikaruga, I don’t know. I always play Ikaruga on DC and Silvergun on either 360 or Saturn.

I had a beat up US Saturn that I would do the swap trick on. I hear it hurts the motor but the system was throw away so I didn’t mind. Worked great to play a burn copy of Silvergun.

Sougyuukurentai is a wonderful game. I find it hard as nails, could never get decent runs in the game. I don’t like it as much as Silvergun but it is great. If you don’t want to know about the scoring system, I get it. It is Raizing and there is suicideing and purposeful item drops and all that good or bad stuff depending on how you look at it.

Man, Saturn is the best.

Darius gaiden fuckin’ rules

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WE are now 23 years into the existence of this and many other disc based systems. Ruining the laser was almost certainly a false narrative to prevent pirating that stopped no one.

These things have moving parts and those are more likely to break.

Like given friends experiences at the time with PS1s I’d be shocked if any PS1s still work. Kids all playing them upside down or sticking them in the freezer for hours just to play some Tomb Raider 3 and Syphon Filter.

The experiences over the years of hearing about broken Oxbox, PS1, PS2, PS3 far outway Sega Consoles or even Turbo Duos. I’ve heard of replacing parts in the later but it seems much more common for the previous to die and then be thrown in a dumpster.

Sega rules. Sony drools.

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Oh, the 360 version of Ikaruga has no problems really. The ugh was more at having to own a separate game to unlock a really nice feature in RS. Otherwise, it’s only really worth it for the slightly cleaned up graphics running on your TV, all of which is stuff you can probably do emulated with only a little extra work, depending on your setup.

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Oh, I thought your post had a typo or something, I can’t believe that’s a thing.

I remember someone on twitter (a onetime SB poster??) went on a rant about how the naomi/dreamcast version is the One True Version and I’m always looking out for reasons why that might be true. They even dissed the gamecube version if I recall–that should have tipped me off that they were being way too picky.

Ikaruga is a little bit more buttoned up than I find myself wanting to go back to (it’s almost too polished for treasure), personally, while RSG is a great big bombastic romp. It’s true that the original scoring and progression systems are a little impenetrable and that detracts from it a bit but it’s still very worth emulating imo.

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i think the saturn is the only disc-based console (other than the xbone and ps4) of which i’ve only ever encountered fully-functioning examples. i’ve seen plenty with slightly temperamental cartridge slots, but that’s all

Yeah, the XBLA version of Silvergun checked if your account had any cheevos from Ikaruga (there were a few that you basically got for even starting the game, so this wasn’t a skill check or anything). If you did, it unlocked the Ika combo system for use in Silvergun, which made things much easier to do. As I recall, you could just log in with your account on the system of someone who owned Ikaruga and get the cheevo that way, as I did for a few friends.

As for the different Ika ports, the only thing I ever noticed was slight differences in musical timing, but nothing particularly huge or anything. Knowing STG people though, I am sure someone has done like millisecond comparisons to pick the best version or whatever.

Yeah definitely. If you are gonna emulate it and want to not worry about the scoring/progression, just play in Saturn mode, which saves progress across plays, so eventually you just have everything fully levelled up.

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The 360 port of Ikaruga has some oddities like certain bosses and bullet patterns rotating in the opposite direction and hitboxes being changed, plus some other random things along those lines. I could easily see it being maddening if you have experience with more accurate versions, but if it is your first taste I don’t think you would ever notice.

as someone who has touched R-TYPE FINAL at least half a decade later to romp through it again, this can be very unnerving, yes.

Why? Because some patterns stuck around, and even if you do not know WHY, you know WHERE you have to be. it was a bit uncanny, especially since the game plays with your feelings by throwing surprising things at you, culminating in Stage F-C where any mistake is GAMEOVER-time for good.
And one thing i wouldn’t need are be enemies who do something different.

I haven’t played Ikaruga for a while as well, but i am sure that, say, if something would move differently in Stage 3, it’d kill me, because you have memorized some patterns so hard that it will kill you if something’s off.

Fuck thanksgiving, the real reason for visiting my parents’ house is getting to play games on the Big Sony CRT With S-Video. Here’s a picture of my SATAKORE:

If I get panzer dragoon 1, after burner, biohazard, vf2, nights and soukyugurentai (breaking my $35 dollar rule for that one) I will be DONE with the Saturn. I will own what I consider the <$35 dollar canon, and I will have no desire to buy any more games for it…unless I become very bored…or very rich.

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I believe stage 3 of Ikaruga got ported the worst with the mini-boss rotating the opposite direction, so yeah you’d die immediately.