I also loved that part when someone is singing about Odysseus and nobody knows he’s in the room just bawling his eyes out.
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There’s so little of modern masculinity to be found in the ancient Greeks, it’s great
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well, or the modern ones
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that part was so fucking good yea
It’s so funny how far it goes too. He cries multiple times. And then after like the third time they’re like, wait, hold up. Everyone! STOP. I have just noticed that whenever we sing of Troy… our guest, his eyes FILL with tears. And this is cruel. We must not continue.
But you must tell us what you know of the hero Achilles, in turn.
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yes yes hahahahahahaha hahahhah
i wish i could go to the mouth of hell just to gossip with all my dead friends
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Such poor souls, and such beggars, yet are men,
And ev’n my mean means means had to maintain
A wealthy house, and kept a manly press,
Was counted blessed, and the poor access
Of any beggar did not scorn, but feed
With often hand, and any man of need
Reliev’d as fitted;
“mean means means”
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Apparently I didn’t need to use my old Audible credit on this because you can listen to or download the same version with no restrictions on archive dot org?
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In blood and gore he saw. Whole shoals they were,
And lay as thick as in a hollow creek
Without the white sea, when the fishers break
Their many-meshed draught-net up, there lie
Fish frisking on the sands, and fain the dry
Would for the wet change, but th’ all-seeing beam
The sun exhales hath suck’d their lives from them:
So one by other sprawl’d the wooers there.
Chapman’s Book 22 is so good, so visceral.
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Feel legit disgusted with myself that I just remembered that The Odyssey was also adapted into one of the best films ever made.
EDIT: Not my favourite Theo by any means but him and Harvey Keitel did a good job here
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If Odysseus was the first conscious man then my father is a pre-odyssean who somehow found his way to the modern era
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CHAPMAN.
TO THE READER
Lest with foul hands you touch these holy rites,
And with prejudicacies too profane,
Pass Homer in your other poets’ slights,
Wash here. In this porch to his num’rous fane,
Hear ancient oracles speak, and tell you whom
You have to censure. First then Silius hear,
Who thrice was consul in renowned Rome,
Whose verse, saith Martial, nothing shall out-wear.
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I FINISHED THIS LAST MONTH AHH I FROGOT ABOUT THE THREAD my enthusiasm really fell off when odysseus got home so i guess i need to read the illiad
i loved loved loved the first half of the book and it was incredibly elevated by reading it at sea, but as soon as i got home so did he and it was hard to keep going
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I was just sitting at my lunch break, wondering where I could go for some daily digest. Then I remembered I haven’t read Chapman’s Iliad.
It’s funny how little of the Odyssey centers on the journey itself. It’s much more about grief and loss. His dog…Argos…
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Emotional Odyssey
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