As someone that knows Fifa Fans YEP
yeah, itâs all about ultimate team. so getting copies out to people who wouldnât usually pick it up is probably a winner for ea.
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Letâs not pretend making new things for purchase and piracy are the same. Pirating everything doesnât create new things. I am not saying piracy is bad. But Jobs from Money are going to create subtitles for Czech New Wave films and discotek releases and cool new video games and rap over the sound of a engine on fire.
You pirated great for you! I just see right now the ability to purchase things going away and that really worries me. I like owning things. I hate services even if they are incredibly convinent. Piracy doesnât make or destroy anything. You are outside this paradigm.
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except virtually no small to medium art is actually sustained by consumer sales at this point and generally speaking we do not advocate for pirating independent works. Weâve had this conversation before but I am more convinced than ever that in both moral and commercial terms itâs irrelevant
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I buy things if itâll actually help people, the problem is regardless of you or Iâs individual ownership of something this society is already structured to rob artists of what they deserve which is why Felix is correct. Being a consumer doesnât actually help anybody.
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How do you measure success when everything is a buffet?
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those formulas are proprietary
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Itâs not even the commercial avenues available to small stuff, the biggest problem is how difficult and bloodthirsty getting any attention at all is. Giving it away barely approaches the problem and even in a world exclusively mediated outside of money like warez sites or subscription services weâre still stuck with our terrible information ecosystem that responds better to conflict than anything else.
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imo the biggest problem is needing attention in the first place but thats just me taking potshots at capitalism
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well yeah thatâs why I spend all my time yelling at people about shit I like on here because finding actually interesting things to engage with is nearly impossible when everyone gets their information from 3 websites all owned by different billionaire devils. like, I understand that getting attention is the hardest part, but when I said we live in a society designed to rob artists the fact that they need attention on this scale at all to keep working is absolutely part of it
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I only half agree with this Iâm afraid, because I like getting to actually engage with people about my or their work and I donât think post-scarcity really has an answer to this either
like I donât think the massive explosion in people doing art for nth-tier indies is totally explained by them desperately needing to get paid (though at the same time I do think it has more explanatory power than my droll framing suggests because a lot of the other jobs they might take are increasingly very bad).
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and youâre deeply immersed in the non-capitalist economy academics live in, the constant struggle for clout through public engagement, conferences, speaking slots and publishing
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oh yeah
we donât value art so we have absolutely 0 venues for actually discussing it lol
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i think the root problem is needing attention because i think 50% of people competing for attention right now would simply stop competing if they didnât need to. because they just wanna make cool art for their friends
which leaves a lot more room for people who want attention
but you could be right, and thereâs definitely not a great solution to âhow to engage with stuff you might care about but have no idea existsâ
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well, we have scenes that you can be a part of it if you had enough stability and creativity earlier in life to make a living in them, or alternately, we have this place, which deliberately exists as an alternative to that, because at the end of the day I am always someone who has more convictions and confidence in simply trying to avoid capitalism rather than trying to kill it
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this is a good culture, here
and everyone is engaged in meaningfully curating it and our tastes and it makes my life enormously better
so thank you all
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I am not trying to convert yâall. I just worry about preservation and reintroduction and reconstruction when the basic act of âpaying to own a thingâ is removed entirely. Not just games but all artforms. Again pirate on.
I think paying to own a thing is good.
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pockets like SB are absolutely important but it would be cool if ppl were interested in having these kinds of conversations on a wider scale, and they mostly arenât, so itâs depressing. i love everyone on here tho, so fuck it. i just left a fucking discord where âno critical conversationsâ is the core of discussion and it was absolute despair
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say what you will of me, I am way too combative to ever go down that road
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