Reminds me of my attempts at making action games in RPG Maker 2000.
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The Ahoy guy on Youtube did a good look-back video for the Amiga that I enjoyed, as someone who never got to experience it:
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Did this this afternoon for like 30 minutes. Didnât quite figure out the goal of the game, and I never figured out items (learning afterwards that I had select mapped to my controller incorrectly). Pretty enjoyable, though. May go back to it!
EDIT: And of course, 10 minutes into playing it again I find something interesting and probably the goal of the game. I wasnât liberal enough clicking on things the first time around.
Pure âWatch Laterâ list fuel.
Did you climb through a window?
Yep. Super neat. Gonna explore it some more later.
How have I never played this???
Have at it gang: SB Recommends Games that are Significantly Different and Better on Console [selectbutton wiki]
I am waiting for a plane and would have come into this thread to mention Kickmaster.
Ice Hockey is still great.
Dr Livingston is a game I have meant to return too.
Play Mega Man 4 then 3 then 1 then 2 then 5 and 6 for my Megaman history.
Boot up Dragon Warrior 4 and look at that color scheme.
Play Zelda 2 with save states the combat is great! Lord is it good.
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I thought you mistyped Dr Franken, but this Dr Livingston game looks pretty rad. Very good getting-ready-to-punch animation.
So good. And I donât think anythingâs ever gotten anywhere quite like it again.
People donât talk about it. I only learned of it a few years ago from Tim.
Mentioning Cocoron
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Too late.
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How would you expand on it? Zelda 2 feels like an early fighting game â like Great Swordsman where youâre trying to bluff attack angles while predicting defense angles, only simpler, faster, and against an uncaring and wild skeleton driven by a hostile computer intelligence.
Though Zelda 2 can combine effective repositioning and secondary item or magic use which keeps it interesting.
Yeah, I thought it was strange that it wasnât adressed yet, but I guess it counts as part of âeverything in the IC wikiâ
So, while we are talking about Megaman-likes, Little Samson is pretty neat. For some of the most beautiful pixel art in the entire NES library, if nothing else.
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Right. Same people, by all appearances. Except this one actually got released outside Japan, and itâs a little less weird. Makes up for it on prettiness, as you mention.
Same artist as Osman, too. And Metal Storm.
I strongly disagree with the save state recommendation though. Zelda 2âs combat is OK-ish (the hyperbole is a little much though, itâs mostly punch-out plus backtracking) but itâs only got stakes in the context of a dungeon.
Zelda 2âs dungeons are, by NES standards, pretty well balanced challenges except for the difficulty spikes at Death Mountain and at the end. The exp-losing penalty for death is a fair punishment, and unlike Zelda 1 and Metroid, it doesnât make you waste time farming health (probably related to how difficult it is to get random health drops in Zelda 2 â you mostly have to make do with the HP/MP you start with plus a few known pit stops).
this thread is so weird to read for me because the NES seemed like such a huge important deal just a few years ago
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you canât talk about the zelda ii combat and not mention its action. the punch-out is just a context for the pushing/sliding/jumping/striking. itâs like a super mario 3 / rondo of blood hybrid, and if that isnât worth mentioning we must be playing games for really different reasons.