Oh man, a Howard Chaykin collab would be something else.
neon demon might the the closest we ever come to a richard calder movie
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I saw Neon Demon. It was p cool. I thought the dialogue was fine and it was way more visually inspired than OGF. it also had something resembling characters one might actually care about which OGF didnât really have.
Jena Malone has been my screen crush since D Darko so this was⌠uhh⌠an eye-opener. yowza
So did anyone else have their movie experience significantly heightened by [spoiler] the misleading marketing?
The trailer made Fanning appear to be dangerous and in control, and the posters made the Neon Demon look like her.
Up to the literally the bloody bath scene I expected her to have something up her sleeve. I was completely in a shock for the last few scenes.
This isnât just a Shocking Plot Twist, itâs also thematically relevant : My confidence in Fanningâs character mirrored her own throughout the movie. She appeared dangerous, she looked somewhat in control, so I believed she was. But she was just a 16 y old trying to make it through the fashion industry completely by herself, what the hell did she/I expect?
Had it been marketed purely as âOverconfident girl gets eaten by the fashion industryâ the movie would have been so much less effective[/spoiler]
I saw it last night and yes, this, and that is just fine with me. Heck, I now actually want NWR to make a Calder adaptation, but that movie probably wouldnât be able to get any funding at all.
So I saw this in a theater with maybe the worst other person in the room, which was difficult as there were only three other people there. Anyhow, this woman sat in front of me and just kept making little comments during the movie (you know, the type of nerd who thinks they can MST3K every movie, ugh) and during the scene where Ruby basically tries to rape the protag, she just kept giggling and making cartoon sound effects like this was just the funniest thing in the world to her. The scene ended with her doing a âRAWR kitty has clawsâ and I almost jumped up to tell her to STFU already.
It was an awesome movie aside from that, though. Canât wait to watch at home where I can tell people to GTFO if they do that.
I dunno, I think expecting people not to crack jokes during attempted sexual assault scenes should be too much though. Yeah, some of the movie is funny, but that part was really not funny.
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Canât say I read that scene as that at all, but we all know you just think that is NWRâs whole schtick, so that doesnât surprise me that you did.
Man I really hope somebody throws 150 million at NWR to make something just to see what kind of beautiful trainwreck might occur. it could be this generationâs Heavenâs Gate (a compliment because that movie totally owns)
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havenât heard since the movie only comes out in august over here and i donât want to torrent it but this podcast with nicolas winding refn seems interesting regarding the thematics of neon demon.
also this interview about the process behind his most recent films is quite elucidating. from the way he describes OGF you can see why he and jodorowsky and kojima get along so well. really made me appreciate him even more.
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man that first podcast is soooo much better than the second (which I had seen). thanks for linking it.
The vice guy can barely put a question together, itâs embarrassing.
jeeze and just as I said that:
Death sentence to people like this.
He has no quarrel with the work, but ultimately itâs in service of the Refn film production line. He offers a lengthy explanation for his career path since Drive that I have to admit I donât quite follow: it entails deifying then destroying masculinity, metaphorically crawling back inside his motherâs womb, then âbeing reborn as a 16-year-old girlâ in the person of Elle Fanning (who was indeed 16 when she was cast: Corfixen spotted her in Sally Potterâs 2012 coming-of-age drama Ginger & Rosa, which was edited by Refnâs father Anders).
Whatever on earth the pattern actually is, he says his next film also fits it. Itâs a spy thriller currently called The Avenging Silence, and while he wonât say much about it on the record, he nods at the following details: itâs set in Tokyo, and he co-wrote it with long-term James Bond screenwriters Neal Purvis and Robert Wade.
Will this be to all intents and purposes âhis Bond movieâ, I ask? âYeah. Yeah,â he agrees â before collecting himself and adding with a serpentine smile: âWell, I donât know yet.â Before Sam Mendes agreed to direct the most recent Bond film Spectre, Refn was one of a few filmmakers approached by Eon Productions to take the reins: he doesnât elaborate, but says heâs now certain franchise work is not for him. âI just know this way I can do whatever I want, and that outweighs any money anyone can give me.â
Will he call on Bond alumnus Mads Mikkelsen, with whom he made the first two Pusher films and his rain-beaten 2009 Crusades epic Valhalla Rising, or Tom Hardy, the star of his 2008 British true-crime drama Bronson? Stonily: âI canât tell you.â OK. When is filming scheduled to begin? âI donât know. I donât even know if Iâll make it yet.â But I think you probably will, I say. His face crumples. âWell, you know me well then.â
I like watching Nicholas Wnding Refn films because even after seeing the trailer, I donât actually know what Iâm going to get
So is Refn some sort of savant that lucked into a directing career?
Thatâs the vibe Iâm getting from these interviews
He did his mediocre work (the miss marple episodes) and had the one genuine failure (Fear X), so I wouldnât say he is a savant. He did benefit from being raised in a film making family, his father is an editor and his mother a cinematographer