Note that this isn’t outrage that Palpatine fucks. This is disappointment that the world can only be structured around the virile phalluses of powerful men.
I really hate this movie.
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I just think this is a really weird way to think of parenthood I guess
I mean, put that way, what I’m saying is maybe not entirely fair and grosser than necessary. But I’m really bothered that Rey was given this lineage. It’s a real cruddy retcon that recontextualizes Rey’s while involvement in the story
Just realized that the only reason the Resistance know about the unimaginably massive sith armada, and how to strike them such that they would all be unshielded and vulnerable before they went on the warpath, was due to General Hux?? That fascistic psychopath that blew up six planets in TFA?
In short, I guess the entire galaxy owes its lives to General Hux, the true hero of the Resistance??
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I feel very strongly that this movie is an insult to life itself
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Yeah but he’s doing it because he hates kylo ren so much and that’s my favorite single thing in the whole damn movie.
Huxlo is real. Huxlo is life.
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don’t u mean general hugs?
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Always two there are
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no it sucks ass, itd be fucking nice if someone could actually come from nothing for once! this shitty blood lineage monarchy crap is SO TIRESOME
like there’s this tik tokker who’s really famous for being a teenage girl who dances. like she got 30 million followers in MONTHS. so her whole family has tik toks so people can be sexually obsesssed with the most age appropriate member of the family. THEN HER WEALTHY CREEPY DAD MAKES ONE and its just ‘hi im charlis dad. YOURE WELCOME’
that’s palpatine energy. palpatine has been nowhere for this girl but ohhhhh once shes important hes like HI. YOURE WELCOME
i cant see it because im one of those fuckers who really liked rey and i want my headcanon untainted and i want rey to be a poor girl whos tough because life is hard. hmph
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Rey being a clone would have been better because instead of being a family thing she would have been a tool palpatine didn’t care about which he tried to discard, who came back and mattered on her own terms.
Instead she’s…fuck…she’s a space princess
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Am I the only person who’s still sad she isn’t obi wans granddaughter
If she was gonna be anyone’s, it would have been a lot better.
I still kinda wonder if that had been the original plan, what with her strong knack for Mind Tricks that was very Obi-Esque.
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i know ranking things is the least interesting way of thinking about them, but after rewatching all of the movies this is kind of what i’m feeling. this is just like, based on which were the most fun for me to watch this time around, trying to ignore all nostalgia (otherwise empire would be higher. at this point in my life i just cant get over what a creepy jackass han solo is in that movie):
4
8
5
R1
6
7
Solo
3
9
2
1
weirdly if i am thinking in terms of trilogies as series, i honestly feel like the best any of these movies can do is make you think about what happens in the original trilogy in a new and different way. they are not really going to compare to the impact of that story at all.
so oddly enough in this context i still like the prequels better than the sequels despite not being particularly enjoyable to watch. i just think they hold together as a story better and despite a few very bad choices (e.g. giving boba fett a weirdly uneventful but complicated back story) i more or less really enjoy the way they change how you watch the original trilogy.
on the other hand, i feel the sequel trilogy is the worst despite having one of my favorite star wars movies in it. i think all three of them just sort of fail to introduce anything entirely new and unexpected into the series.
part of this is because of the 30-odd year gap in the narrative timeline. i have always felt like the sequel trilogy is too invested in relating its overarching narrative to the untold story that happens in between rotj and tfa, rather than directly following up on things that we actually see depicted in any of the original movies, or even that are implied to have happened during the timeline of those movies.
just in terms of the plots of the movies themselves, i am constantly surprised by all the credit 8 gets for being unconventional or whatever. for me it works mostly because it is kind of a (sometimes too-) clever tribute to everything that came before it. in both tfa and tlj, basically every single scene has a more or less direct equivalent in one of the first three movies.
plus in terms of aesthetics i think it tlj really just goes for that ‘classic star wars feel’ much more vigorously than either 7 or 9, i think just because rian johnson is probably more conscious about that sort of thing than abrams is interested in being.
but i still find it the easiest of the new movies to watch just because its like… better made as a film. and i appreciate the way it incorporates some of the details about the jedi that are only explicated in the prequels, even though i felt like all of the sequels should have tried harder to meaningfully account for … whatever was happening in those movies.
even though i fully get why everyone hated tros, i have found that ive been thinking about it a ton in the past few days. on top of other things i liked about it, i want to give it (some) credit for doing things that i have genuinely never seen before in a star wars movie. unlike tfa or tlj, and despite how much the overall plot/themes of the film are very self-consciously imitative of rotj, it’s not the case in this movie that every single scene is some kind of a riff on a memorable sequence of the original movies. when it does do visual callbacks, they are almost just as often referring to stuff from the prequels as they are to the original trilogy (like palpatine’s ‘throne room’ being a totally twisted version of the senate, the weird cloning equipment, the parade-like atmosphere of the festival scenes reminded me of the end of tpm, the way one of the major plot elements revolves around the corpse of a “jedi hunter” which reminds you of order 66… there are probably more). even weirder is the way the movie is oddly reminiscent of ‘raiders of the lost ark,’ of all things (i can’t be the only person who was reminded of the scene of that movie in tibet or nepal or whatever by the city where they meet zorii bliss. i half expected them to encounter her in the middle of a drinking contest with a weird alien, and then of course there’s the fact that the whole movie revolves around quest-for-the-orb type of macguffin hunts, and the way palpatine’s face melts off at the end)
to be fair, i dont’ think all of this stuff is particularly good, but i appreciate that it is doing things we haven’t seen before
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Rewatching ANH in the light of the prequels, the way Obiwan describes Anakin and the history of the Jedi to Luke makes him just the hugest douche
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the unceremonious cloning equipment and attendants are nice
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Your take on TLJ not doing much of anything never seen before in Star Wars is interesting. Because I feel like half the movie is trying to do new stuff and/or move Star Wars into a spot where it can more easily do new stuff. And in the documentary, Rian literally says with Rose, he wanted to make a character you wouldn’t ever have seen in past Star Wars.
yeah i get that about rose. i mean it’s more like i guess a ‘lower decks’ type of thing where she is the type of character who’s always running around in the background carrying ice cream machines or whatever, but she’s given an actual plot and lines and stuff
i mean finn is more or less the same idea but a bit more compelling imho. even though i like rose, you gotta admit ‘deserter storm trooper’ is a cooler background than ‘low ranking engineer (i think?) who happens to be the sister of a martyr’
You know, I’ll have to go back and rewatch that bit of the doc. But, I don’t think that’s what he meant, with Rose. I think its more about how she treats people and how she expresses her feelings and emotions.
oh, yeah, that makes sense. i think a lot of why tlj is so good to me is just because the dialogue is a lot better written (and acted) than most of the other star wars movies. but i guess i’m thinking more in terms of the overarching plot and settings and stuff like that. but even then it’s not like it’s just copying stuff from the old movies, it’s more like… remixed i guess. idk.