Let's just talk about Star Wars forever (Part 1)

this is exactly why the climax of that episode was so distressing to me, it was extremely surreal to come out of my own experience with the end of that show as this deeply melancholic dramatic irony thing to see that apparently the internet’s takeaway from it was “wow finally the ruthlessly violent badass fuckable luke skywalker we’ve been waiting for all these years!!!”

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I honestly hadn’t considered that. it would be a hell of a retcon for all the fanbois whining about ‘why luke so sad’. THAT’S why, you idiots. but you know Disney, in Mandalorian season 6 or whatever we’ll find out Luke hid Grogu away from Kylo right before he went on his murder spree

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Episode 11, or the one where NeoLuke TotallyASkywalker finds the hidden elderly Grogu living alone on planet Gabodah.

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https://collider.com/star-wars-movies-ranked-from-worst-to-best/

to my surprise I think I pretty much agree with this ranking verbatim

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I would rearrange a couple things but other wise that seems solid. I still think Solo is underrated, but I don’t know which of the ones it’s ranked after I actually think it’s better than. It’s more that there is a huge void between aotc and that. Speaking of aotc, it’s the hardest one to rank because it has some of the best and worst scenes in the prequels.

But:

Did TLJ even have space battles? They mention the first scene, which is great, but other than that I honestly can’t remember anything. Good x wing stuff is one of the main things the sequels era has really lacked IMO

Why are Han and Chewie friends?

Solo sucks because it does not answer this question and does nothing to show who Chewie is. He signs up for a bank heist like he has nothing better to do.

The caged animal was released by the white dude and now the animal is no longer a slave to anything but his new friend

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i’ve got bad news for you about how this character is written in literally every star wars movie

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“chewie is han solo’s dog” is a funny idea that just gets creepier the more they try to build out the backstory of wookies as like a fully sentient, complex species

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The Star Wars Universe in one sentence

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Based on the relative life spans of Wookies/Humans a lot of people would assert that Han is actually Chewie’s dog

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Han definitely needs much more behavior correction, anyway

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443

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This is it. The one game that could ever possibly top The Quiet Man. I am deliriously excited

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Say what you will about David Cage, but he shares George Lucas’s natural gift of writing dialogue and directing actors.

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Holy fuck I cannot wait for this thing

not sure if this thought is directly inspired by your post or not, but for some reason i have been thinking about a star wars movie spinoff set in the post-jedi years when luke is in decline that follows the vague premise of Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, with Han Solo as Brad Pitt’s guy and Luke as Leo

Chewie is still Han Solo’s dog, and the manson family are idk sith wizards or something

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it occurs to me that 6 and 7, as the only entries that are middling rather than great or terrible, actually hold up a little better if you’re only looking at the film series as a new hope through the last jedi and just ignoring the prequels and TROS outright, because the star wars that you’re left with in that case actually seems like it’s intentionally cyclical and repetitive rather than just lazily so

There’s a wrinkle to the knee-jerk reaction to TLJ’s reception where Rebels was willing to be even weirder, like space whales as Chekhov’s gun, but now that branch is subsumed into Jon Favreau’s joyless derivative competence.

you are practically begging me to post george lucas saying “it’s like poetry… they rhyme” and i’m not going to give either of us the satisfaction

There is also this weird element of Resistance where they really lean in to Poe being kind of reckless. I don’t exactly have the actual timeline straight, I think most of this came out after TLJ? So it works kind of as … reverse foreshadowing? Except they still play by Saturday morning cartoon rules so none of his bad decisions really have consequences.

I don’t really hate either TLJ or TROS, I mean I definitely think TROS is the worst one but I respect it for figuring out a new way to make Star Wars kind of abject again. I have a lot of weird love for the parts of it that are just like… incoherent and bizarre. Like a character just getting beheaded in the first five minutes or so? It’s such a gross movie, aesthetically. But I do still just get kind of sad thinking about how lazy it is, and what could have been.

Oh right I remembered why I started talking about TROS. The biggest mistake they made was cutting the trailer as though it was going to be this really grave, emotional conclusion. I mean I know the early clips had the dumb joke about storm troopers with jetpacks. But I feel like other than that they made the movie out to be something that would be tonally on the same wavelength as TLJ, so when the actual movie started… just like…being what it is pretty immediately, I felt very lost in the theater. Kind of an indescribable feeling.

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