Let's just talk about Star Wars forever (Part 1)

When we got to this episode my wife informed me that this occasioned a huge furious debate on twitter and the depth of my apathy almost sucked me into a Nietzschean abyss

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Re: the TV shows, I now have the cursed knowledge of “oh I know what they’re doing” like a comic guy recognizing the Thanos tease in 2012

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Oh No If it is the same thought that just got planted in my skull. It makes uh…complete sense I just…you know what who gives a crap I’m 36 and don’t have to care about space wizards any more or ever.

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Wait what?

I dunno what you’re thinking but IMO they’re table setting for these live action shows to be Heir to the Empire Redux AU. I just hope they don’t tie into the sequel movies but I can see Filoni trying to shore up plot points like Palpatine clones.

Re: Grogu’s attempted Frog Person genocide, I take solace in the knowledge that he will be murdered in his sleep by Kylo Ren

e: that’s not Luke saving Grogu. it’s Luuuke

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The eggs were unfertilized!!!

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They also belonged to a sapient being!

OK, finally, having consumed every minute of canon televisual Star Wars in the past month I can say the Luke cameo fucking sucks. Total nonsensical deus ex machina dweebs on youtube are always accusing Rian Johnson of

Shoulda been Bo-Katan cutting down the droids with the darksaber in The Mandalorian

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The more I think of the Luke cameo the worse it gets. The Mandalorians are already invincible, apparently, why add another character who cannot be hurt or beaten? You’ve got the whole gang here, have them find a way to beat these killer robots! I dunno, maybe baby yoda sees Din getting overwhelmed, manages to freeze them for a brief amount of time, gives the group time to do something fun and improvised. Bleh.

Anyways I had a thought about the the Cassian Andor show they’re making: This would mean K-2SO would be still with him, right? That could be fun, seeing Alan Tudyk back, their dynamic was one of the best parts of Rogue One:

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apparently k2so is not in the cassian andor show, but may show up if they do a second season

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It’s probably already been said in this thread but the Luke cameo is so frustrating because it turned a story set in the same universe as Star Wars into a Star Wars Story. The entire show froze its own narrative momentum for some protracted wack ass Dark Forces-style Jedi badassery (actually a complaint I have about a lot of Mandalorian is overlong action sequences that start to feel like gleeful fanfilms just delighted to be fucking around with lightsabers and tie fighters, which I hate) and a stilted cameo. That’s not even getting into the “for the Real Star Wars Fans” pandering aspect of it.

Also, what the fuck is wrong with Luke? Where does he have to get to so fucking fast? I don’t think Pedro even got his name. He’s that kid’s dad, basically! It felt really emotionally unsatisfying (the little moment where he lets him see his face was nice, but it felt like a very brief, fleeting return to the show I actually liked). And it wasn’t even good Luke fanservice. He had none of the personality or warmth of Luke, just a hollow murdermachine who’s cosplaying a druid or some shit.

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Everything about the climax seems dictated by “we can’t get this face far enough past the uncanny valley to make prolonged interaction anything but Fucking Spooky.”

So everyone is dumbstruck at the appearance of a dude with a slightly different laser sword than the one they’ve been chatting about. Smaller Yoda and Trashcan share chirps and goobles to keep the camera at standard human ankle-to-waist level long enough that someones or somethings have had something resembling an interaction or scene beyond “hello, smaller frog/cat goblin, need a ride?” + “but Tin Father?!” + “It’s Cool, he has Green Sword, and you are a Green Child! Go! Go, and Become Sword Itself!”

Halloween Luke is Wearing the Shatner Mask Like Mike Meyers But It is His Own Face, Luke Cut Off His Own Face To Wear It isn’t even a long episode. They had time to breathe if they wanted it/could pull off their very bad idea! They couldn’t, and/or didn’t, so we get Christ revealing himself to a room of mute, undoubting Thomases, so overawed by The Brand they shed all individual identity and just

stare

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The other laser sword is much cooler and, critically, related to Mandalore

I was puzzled by the must-win-in-combat rule they invented because Bo-Katan most recently had it given to her freely by an exiled teenage Mandalorian

My immediate rewrite to do the same scene without Luke is Bo-Katan taking the darksaber under the pressure of the situation and rewriting the rule that it must be acquired or used in a noble deed, etc.

Fuck Jedi

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i’m not nearly as down on the luke cameo as i guess everyone else here is, but my major grievance is that it would have been so much funnier (and a much more mind bending move for ‘the canon’) if it had been grizzled old man mace windu instead

especially because (as i think i mentioned before) boba fett would finally have a chance to settle the score with the guy who killed his dad, one way or another. i could even accept if they were able to bury the hatchet without murdering one another, that would maybe even be better

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Oh, for the people who (reasonably so) can’t be bothered with the animated shows, know that Rebels introduces a “world between worlds” that looks like the Zero from KRZ in its last season and Ezra uses it to travel to a particular time and place and rescue someone from imminent death.

Palpatine is aware of this and wants help accessing it, but Ezra refuses. This makes Palpatine’s plan in TROS even more ridiculously contrived but also quaint. If you know about the place outside the multiverse where you can change time and space, why on earth do you care about a fleet of Death Star Destroyers and reincarnating in your granddaughter? Dream big.

The absence of the truly out-there trippy force stuff in the films is a missed opportunity.

Here’s to the Ahsoka show. :clinking_glasses:

The Luke scene could have worked better if they just had marginally de-aged beardo Luke rather than freshly exhumed babyface RotJ Luke imho. Then he could have at least, like, acted.

(Though doolittle’s idea is, of course, much better.)

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How’s a baby yoda supposed to mature without a little genocide? You wouldn’t cancel a deer for eating baby birds out of their nests

The deer doesn’t have language or a telepathic/empathetic connection to all living things :expressionless:

I don’t think Yodas are obligate carnivores. He’s eating soup in Empire

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Yodas only reach maturity through war crimes, they are trapped in a neotenic state until then

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Today is the day Yoda finally became president

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