god, i'm so sorry (superhero-comicbook nonsense)

i also remember enjoying season 1 of jessica jones. the runaways show was really good too. and it had some of the most amazing casting i’ve ever seen for a live action adaptation of a drawn property.

what is the wes anderson x-men skit?

the new mutants was excellent, but it took years to come out for some reason and then barely anyone watched it, so we won’t be getting any more teen angst marvel horror probably.

i don’t have any timecops

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I think more of the TV has held up.

Best thing ever, never. But I’d say all the Defenders stuff is worth watching, which is most of the Netflix/Marvel stuff.

IDK. People need to chill out. Is it fun? yes. Is it CINIMA, lol no. I’m digging the current Agatha series.

OK, but is it more fun than a mid 90s serialized fantasy show about, like, a cop from hell chasing people who escaped hell, or a vampire trying to be a cop, or a cop with a robot car solving car crimes.

…I don’t think I realized how many of those shows starred cops.

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BRIMSTONE MENTIONED

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Since most Marvel characters are about… two beats from being cops, they basically ARE those shows for this modern media hellscape.

Yeah wasn’t the gimmick in the original late 90s run that these appeared to be brand new heroes who were getting some sort of PR push but were gradually revealed to be particularly heinous 70s villains.

I showed my parents Ms. Marvel and they really liked it, which is natural since it’s about Pakistanis. I remember it being pretty solid until it started trying to get more serious, introducing more organizations and plotlines than I knew the series would actually ever meaningfully develop or resolve.

I loved how much this show emphasized how mind control is fundamentally just another form of violating someone’s bodily autonomy, something people already commit in many different ways.

I still feel like there’s something fundamentally different in tone and personality of the MCU stuff and, say, the CW Arrowverse. Neither are “CINIMA”, but I dug the melodrama and schlockiness of the Arrowverse.

I recall Wandavision’s big thing being that every episode was parodying a different TV show, right? Is Agatha the same way?

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There is. I mean the Arrowvers stuff returned to more classic Pulp roots. Pure melodrama or imaginative fun as a rule across those shows.

Marve shows have a range of tones. I do think the Netflix stuff was going for more dire Premium TV. The Disney + stuff are tying to be extended movies mostly, but Wandavision is super META and in it’s own place. There are just more oddball shows there as well.

But also Shows like Gotham took on a Noir tone.

I don’t know; there are a lot of takes on these things. Mileage may vary, but a lot of it does not weather the Metacritic/rotten tomatoes world of a universal ‘good’ or ‘bad’.

I feel like you can be asked 'how do you like your Batman" and follow the lines of comminatly from there. For me, It’s Lego Batman or BATS. But all the ‘proper movie’ stuff is mostly a miss.

I don’t think I’ve liked the look of any of the WB cartoon movies post-Justice League Unlimited or that newer Teen Titans thing, which I don’t think I even finished. What’s the state of DC animation? I know some people like that Harley Quinn show, though I found the writing in the first episode to be way too on the nose to be funny. But there are all those direct-to-streaming movies too that all look real ugly.

Edit: I loved how Gotham tried to ride a fine line between serious TV cop drama and goofy Arrowverse shenanigans. Opening episode 2 with a guy flying into the air tied to a balloon and blowing up. What a supremely dumb show. I should probably go back and finish it.

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a batman cartoon came out on amazon prime a couple of months ago that was pretty good

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If that’s what I think it is, that’s the long-hyped BTAS spiritual successor that Zaslav decided WB/Max had no need of so they sold it off.

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I would say The Crooked Man is a pretty good adaptation of one of my least favorite Hellboy stories. The painfully low budget doesn’t hurt it nearly as much as the trailers suggest and it has the best movie Hellboy we’ve seen yet. You can tell they wanted to add Kate Corrigan but the timeline didn’t work so there’s just a new kate-like bprd agent along for the ride. Overall 6/10 Probably For the Fans Only.

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Okay, yeah, I’m listening. Even if I still hate the computer-y animation these shows all do now.

ooh have your parents watched Polite Society? it’s very marvel-inflected but one or two of the fights have actual emotional stakes

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The twist in that movie is so fucking goofy and over the top that framing it as a comic book movie actually works. Polite Society rules.

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80s documentary? interview? with Alan Moore, featuring his song about ducks

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