Everyone get a load of THIS
Skip to 14:09 for the main event
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sony gave away destiny 2 “beyond light” recently in one of their ps+ monthly thingies. i haven’t installed it yet, but as someone who absolutely loves halo gunplay, there’s a part of me that’s interested in destiny
however, the way they’ve gone about things seems absolutely ridiculous. it feels like, to me, as if there was like a 600-issues-and-counting comic series or something that was generally well-liked and recommended. so, as someone who hasn’t read that comic, i try to go read it, but it turns out the publisher has rounded up every copy of the comic from issue 1-250 and thrown them all on a pyre. they don’t exist anymore. utter madness!
the solution proffered in comment sections i perused is: “go watch this 4 hour lore video”
like holy shit they could not possibly have made this game more radioactive. how can a game that repulses all but the most dedicated attempts to enter its wheelhouse continue to sustain itself?
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I’m so ambivalent about Destiny. It’s too complicated for me to offer a clean recommendation, which I think generally means I can’t in good conscience recommend it. The guns are good though. It’s just an exhausting game and it’s hard to give Bungie good will tbh.
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if you want a halo-style campaign witch queen is a good bungie campaign but i would not recommend anyone get into the live game aspect as someone into the live game aspect
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Witch Queen is good!
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you say “halo-style campaign” but in the halo games i knew what was going on, the major players. i was never confused when playing through halo: reach or halo 4. i never got Proper Nouned to death…
like, i have no doubt that the gunplay in this witch queen thing is staggeringly good. pretty much 100% of people who like destiny talk about how good the guns are! and it’s bungie… i know how much i liked their guns in halo.
but can a new player just… play the witch queen campaign without context? it’s also not free… if i buy it, how long do i have to play it before bungie decides to delete it?
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Still haven’t had the time to boot into Lightfall (will be doing that tonight) but coming off the highs of beating Witch Queen on Legendary with rye this weekend, it sure is depressing to see absolutely everyone hating their time with Lightfall
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bungie said they’re not removing expansions but as you and i both know that is wholly within their control. i do not recommend it generally and definitely not to you personally
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The seeds of the Witch Queen storyline date back to vanilla D2 which is mostly gone, and the ramp-up was all in seasonal content that is gone as well.
Witch Queen will not get vaulted, as Bungie has stated they are no longer interested in vaulting main expansion content. But yeah, nothing in Destiny makes any sense unless you are actively playing most weeks of the year.
Sounds like Lightfall doesn’t even make sense to people who make Destiny lore videos as a full-time job so it could be worse
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i’ve been really nostalgic for vault of glass, the last word and all the great times with sb friends lately but i got an actual migraine looking at destiny 2 dlc skus the other day and it just seems impossible to navigate + like they went really off the deep end with the Monetisation
(i’m kinda sad they never ported destiny 1 to pc cos i’d have just jumped on there and played a couple of games of crucible, titan skated around for 20 mins, logged off and got my nostalgia fix that way)
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It sounds like someone is working on a PC-focused mod pack for PS3 Destiny 1 running in emulation? I remember watching a video about it recently
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The story of Destiny is absolutely not worth caring about. It’s just commonplace modern “spec-fic” scifi writing you can find getting pushed out every week and month in genre fic magazines. Predictable arcs. Bad poetry and forced metaphors. Grotesquely unearned pathos. Very unremarkable stuff when you get down to it. The characters are where the story really is, but to get into that, yeah, you need to look into or experience a hundred hours of game (some of which you cannot play anymore) or watch boring cutscene comps or lore vids.
Witch Queen is good but not standalone in any sense.
This treadmill is not worth your time, and stepping onto it would probably be unhealthy for some people.
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funny, I hate the characters, I love the lore
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The problem of lore and mechanical cruft accreting like barnacles is endemic to all live service games, it seems, which is ironic because more than anything else they depend on getting new players in who stick around long enough to buy things.
Periodically these games see “new player experience” updates that clean things up. Maybe it happens every three, four years, and it usually means the game doesn’t get much elder player content that year. But I really think this should be done with every update, that these games should constitute a new player team responsible for managing this and ingesting new updates so every player who starts isn’t met with a dozen “content drop” notifications on first boot.
These studios spend months tweaking the reward moment juice, researching and applying techniques to the treasure animation just to get it right, but with their finished work they just throw it on the ever-growing pile of content hoping the external mills will process it for an audience.
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Definitely a matter of preference. I enjoy the wildness of old Bungie lore, but for the past bunch of expansions (since Shadowkeep) the lore seems to be going in a less metafictional and more literal direction, which makes Destiny as an ongoing story lose some of its unique identity to me.
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Ah, I could believe that, my direct knowledge is far out of date
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I feel like there was an expansion about The Fallen that piqued my interest, since that faction was the most interesting to me, but I think it disappeared into the ether. When I last tried to get into destiny I spent 10 hours in it and concluded I would need 80 more hours before I would feel like I could do a raid. Those 10 hours just made me feel like I didn’t know a thing about Destiny’s many systems and doing a build, or getting a loadout with any kind of intention, was going to take a lot of work.
Now if they made a loot-shooter but it’s based off the Warhammer 40k universe…that I could actually maybe get into. That universe is so interesting to me, I’ll read lore entries all day long.
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nah everyone seems mad that it’s not entirely explicable again
i’m a happy camper for that, the grappling hook, and because the raid looks like annihilation (2018 film)
i do not recommend this game. i’ll be glad to see it off in a year
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You gotta love the environment art!
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How many current GAAS games are built around replaying a campaign mode like PSO, just with ever updating balance and mechanics? Path of Exile is like that. I assume Diablo 3 is similar even if Adventure Mode is kind of open ended. uma no bov-san’s pretty derby does it, which was refreshing to see in the mobile game space. Any other major mentions in the current live service sphere? Almost all live service games end up being about daily/weekly activities, which means a lot of new players just aren’t relevant to new content considerations.
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