He’s also Morpheus and one of the bums sitting on the chairs in the free clinic annex.
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Just checked out GMDX Augmented Edition and aside from the wonky stamina system, I think I really like all the changes? Felt like I was seeing Liberty Island with new eyes when all of the broken braindead tactics I’m used to became impossible, the final stretch of the path to the NSF leader had me constantly throw junk from the ground floor around and even bust out pepper spray for the first time in my life. The QoL changes are fun and tasteful, plus being able to unlock dozens of outfits (and mix and match a lot of them) as a reward for exploration is exactly my kind of thing. I think Lady Denton has her own separate set of outfits, too?
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GMDX is probably the best rebalance mod anyones made for this game. shifter was always everyones go to so it made a logical base to work off of i think, and biomod wasnt quite there even if it did try really hard to make the aug system more involved. revision was kind of ugly and i remember not really liking any of the map changes. even basic stuff in GMDX like color coding for ammo types is really nice stuff i never knew i wanted in deus ex. I also respect the devs for reworking the weapon mods so you can’t do dumb shit like put a laser on a gun and have it be pinpoint accurate for the rest of the game without any skill point investment or accuracy mods. I think my fav change they made though is that if you get demolitions high enough your gas grenades can knock people out. Also turning Swimming into Athletics is genius. However you have to play a game that fundamentally doesn’t need to be rebalanced, with a modders idea of good game design.
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I am definitely planning on a second playthrough of DX after all the discussion in this thread. I am actually thinking I may just play LGS games for a while… including DX and DXIW.
Very curious what mods I may have used to play the game originally in like 2012. The one thing I know for certain is that I had to do some kind of restriction to using a single core of my CPU, cause the game would run incredibly fast otherwise lol. But I suspect I may have just played it vanilla other than that. I’ll get the Visible Upgrade for IW and GMDX for DX set up ahead of time!
Next time anyone tells you deus ex is too 90s or rooted in boring American conspiracy about mib’s u should tell them that no other game in the year 2000 was brave enough to illustrate the imperial boomerang with regards to policing so aptly which is literally something people are just finding about because of ICE lol
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lol yes I saw this on one of the newspapers in game last night and was like god damn. I’ve played this game like 15 times but never as an adult so I’m enjoying all the public news terminals and stuff way more than I did before since they are arguably a little more subtle than the NSF guys lecturing you directly. I was wayyy overdue for a replay, last time I did I was like 16 and copied Alginon’s Ultimate Run. which was ridiculously fun but I don’t think I’d ever do it again.
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I haven’t read this walkthrough for a while, I remember it was exceptional bent around exploiting set pieces pointlessly
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It’s also worth watching illiteratechild’s lets play on yt as they are probably one of the most famous deus ex exploit people
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Does DX have a Vampire Bloodlines style maximalist and embarrassing “restoration” patch that attempts to add in any unused and incomplete ideas to the game?
i definitely have a replay in me (with that Lady Denton mod of course. i am determined to mod all my favorite games to let me play as women and/or cartoon animals)
ive never actually played the reboot/prequel games this threads nominally about, i’m sure i’d get a kick out of them even if they don’t hold a candle to the original.
some observations about the reboot series based on what i know of them though
1. it’s very funny to me that the upgrades you acquire are called PRAXIS KITS in the same way it’s very funny to me that in Jak II he immediately says aloud hes GONNA KILL PRAXIS game devs please keep using praxis as a noun you don’t understand it gets me every time
2. different rewards for lethal vs nonlethal make sense in a mechanical way that i understand, but in a storytelling way i find it kinda depressing. something i love about Deus Ex and Thief 1-2 is that you are mostly disincentivized from killing guards by eavesdropping on them and learning what they’re like thru dialogue. like Thief mandates non-lethal play on Expert difficulty, but also when you listen to the guards, they seem like a bunch of working-class jobber goobers who don’t deserve to get shivved. in Deus Ex i try to avoid killing the NSF cuz they openly talk about being tired and scared and wanting to go home, cuz theyre likewise desperate recruits who joined up with a freedom fighter militia (an early hint that they’re actually the good guys). i freely kill MJ-12 guys because they’re in on the nightmarish conspiracy to plague the world via nanomites, but even their grunts have lines that shade them as punch-clock villains. the sailors are all a bunch of innocent schmos etc. The “morality” of killing these “enemies” is part of the narrative more than it is a risk-reward mechanic
That said i always get Anna Navarre praising me for being a stone-cold killer because i snuck in thru the back of Castle Clinton and she just busted in and murdered them all herself and i couldnt stop her psychically, apparently
bookmark to eventually post about how much i love Gunther Hermann and his bromance with Anna it’s one of my favorite lil subplots in games
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IIRC not really, because most of the significantly cut content largely doesn’t actually exist at all. There are some bugged conversations, like the bum in the clinic talking about being immunized against Grey Death in the military (which I’d never heard until yesterday) or Ford Schick showing up if you save him when you go to Smuggler’s a second time, but stuff like the space station level or the White House don’t really exist for people to ruminate on even though a bunch of those assets got repurposed (like parts of Area 51 are made out of the moon base level that got cut) so it seems like it would be too much work for most people. And the kind of people insane enough to work with the Deus Ex tools to that extent largely ended up making their own TCs.
The confix mod (which supports the lady denton project FYI!) seems to fix the broken and/or unused conversations so they are in game now, and it’s part of stuff like GMDX
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I never kill Private Lloyd, the receptionist at UNATCO, even after everything goes down because once you finish Liberty Island he tells you it’s his first day too.
you actually have to do work to stop UNATCO from killing all the NSF guys at Castle Clinton (I like using cs gas because if your backup charges the entrance they will get fucked up by the gas and you can buy time to tranq all the NSF troops) but if you do it without casualties it rules because Navarre bitches to Manderley and Walton Simons that you’re a huge pussy next time you go back to HQ. also if you refuse to kill the NSF during the street shootout outside the ‘ton hotel a bunch of your co-workers will comment on how the soldiers were bitching that you weren’t mowing people down.
this game is so, so easy to not murder people in. starting a firefight is often more trouble than its worth (and by the time you’re fighting MJ12 you can finally afford to kill people if you’d like, which meshes well with the narrative) and like if the way every single person you work with is constantly telling you to execute people and shoot on sight and make an example of them besides your brother doesn’t make you not want to kill the NSF idk what to tell ya! i always really liked that even before you see walton simons gunning down prisoners in the basement you have the opportunity to pick up on the fact that your employer has extremely bad vibes. and playing the game non lethally often leads you into conversations where JC is just saying what you’re thinking anyway, which is also good:
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@iguferon you wouldn’t happen to be playing with GMDX and Lay D Denton would you? wondering how compatible the mods are with each other.
GMDX augmented edition includes it, and is the version of GMDX you should be playing anyway for a variety of reasons (it’s annoying to me that gog put GMDX on there and it’s v9 instead of RSD or this version but w/e)
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yep, escape from unatco is when the gloves come off lol
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lol yup that’s me every time too. lugging around a flamethrower, sawed off shotgun and pistol the entire game barely using them until me and the bro get taken to the NWO torture dungeon
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It seems very intentional, too
The game does not track lethality after the first ~four missions
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I love how reasonable the NSF guys are. all the troops build up the hostage situation in the ‘ton hotel like it’s a bunch of guys shooting random people in the head but it’s two scared guys who you can incapacitate easily. I never knock anyone out in the mole people tunnels cuz the commander instantly surrenders and everyone’s cool. They’re all so confident that what they’re doing is right that they just never bother to lie to you or try to fuck you over. It rules.
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