Concepts in Alternative Television


Detroit has a long tradition of horror hosts but for whatever reason, The Ghoul rode the airwaves up from Toledo to outshine them all.

The other other Ghoulardi knock off apparently goes by Son of the Ghoul and has gotten in some legal trouble for it.

We did have a new horror host about 10 years back called Wolfman Mac who became infamous for getting sued over his act too. Apparently he stole it from some dude in Lansing. My friend worked for him for a couple episodes and it was a mess. They were depending on him to bring his own camera to shoot the whole thing on his first day. The best part of the show was that since he was buying up infomercial airtime for his show, he solicited sponsorships from local businesses to off set the cost. So every week this awful looking werewolf would show up on late night TV to swear a different pizzeria was the greatest ever.

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only recently i found out about this one program that aired in brazilian television, august 22th of 1983.

the show’s director gave one episode for a group of independent video producers who had just graduated (from architecture school, mostly!) to run. the result is one of the most hilarious i’ve ever seen.

since it’s a stage thing the editing and, of course, the interviews were done live. all the infrastructure set-up is incredibly precarious, which lead to many unpredictible outcomes and improvisation.

like, they call some guy who’s supposed to be a writer to say what he thought of recording of a (then recent) bob marley concert and he just didn’t see it because the monitor was too far and they just wing a conversation while you see people of the audience and staff walking by. later they call one of the most important film-makers in the country for an interview and he gets furious because people keep interrupting and making noise all the time. there’s an interview with a fake (?) fashion-designer on his collection about world war 3 that is just normal-ish clothes and models walking weird / dancing.

in the pre-recorded segments they interview random people in the streets and ask them about death.

it’s all so eerie and surreal.

unfortunately there aren’t english subtitles that i know of though :frowning:


experimental 1080p/60 video footage shot in Tokyo, 1992.



this is amazing to watch though given the timeframe, it was probably 1035i originally and deinterlaced because that is how far along NHK’s HDTV experiments were at the time

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I lived in Phoenix, Arizona when I was young, where there was a local show called Wallace and Ladmo. Every day, they had a group of kids on the show and they would give each of them a “Ladmo Bag” filled with little toys and coupons and things.

(I was never on the show, but I sure would have liked to get my hands on one of those bags–I remember liking the sound that they made when picked up, for some reason, even though they were just ordinary paper bags.)

The opening sequence (which I now see was likely inspired by Terry Gilliam) had a catchy theme song, and is why I thought mentioning the show might be appropriate for this thread (maybe).

A close friend of my mother who lived around the corner from us made all the costumes for the show, and I’d always watch out for her name in the credits at the end. This friend of my mother’s had an unnamed disease that doctors could never figure out how to treat, that made her totally unable to eat or drink anything for years until her death.


i just learned that there was a public access tv show aimed at furries that ran from 1983 to 2017


i think would fit pretty well with this idea.

it takes a random succession of youtube videos with something close to zero views each and shows you a few seconds at a time. i think there must be some cameras that have built-in upload functionality and people forget they have it turned on or something. it has a real late-night tv feel to it.


last night i wathed a really beautiful documentary from 2004 called public access hollywood, and i strongly recommend it to everyone


it’s me, i’m posting in this thread again. i found a youtube channel called “the iba archive”, which is full of iba engineering announcements. these are incredibly specialist news shows that were broadcast on british tv for broadcasting engineers, in the middle of the day when normal people were at work.

wikipedia refers to them as “ghost programs”, that were regularly scheduled, but not advertised or included in listings, which is also pretty interesting.


it’s hilarious to think that there was a time when people figured there was no reason to watch tv during work hours unless it was literally your job

a relic of a more civilized age…

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Reminds me of a time when I was a kid at home during school holidays watching SBS (usually a channel for foreign language programs) and there were a bunch of weird shows on that seemed like OHS instructional programs. One of them had some guys singing something like “I got the greeeeeen book!”

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i’m showing my partner Night Walk now and they’re into it, cheers

there’s this youtube aggregator that plays only videos that haven’t had their title changed from their default filename, seems kinda relevant?


I have wondered outloud to myself in silence before about how to construct a little home analog television network setup thing, before. Like, how to broadcast multiple continuous digital video streams over RF to send to a TV that could then flip through the channels with its tuner. Gotta be a way to do this, right? Seems like something, say, a hotel in the 90s would have done in some capacity, although maybe just using a huge bank of VCRs.

Is the only way a bunch of discrete video cards and nonsensically daisy-chained individual RF-adapters?

I have spent zero actual real effort trying to answer these questions myself.


here’s some clips of tv broadcast in nazi germany. i wonder how many tv owners there were to even watch it. the english voiceover suggests that the clips are taken from a documentary?
anyway, there’s some propaganda featuring amputee soldiers being retrained to go back to war and an inscreen announcer makes a joke about sending foreign musicians to the camps

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My family lived too far from the population centres so we didn’t get SBS when I was growing up. When I moved to Sydney I watched so much weird stuff, I miss Eat Carpet which was experimental/student short films shown in the Saturday night graveyard slot after Des Mangan’s ‘smirk while introducing terrible/great giallio/Hong Kong’ Cult Movie.

Channel 31 in Sydney was a wonder, half cooking shows in industrial galleys and half Blokesworld, a dumber, more mysoginistic & more sincere version of Jackass.


wow, this is so strange and voyeuristic, i love it


build your own teletext decoder, in 1979

don’t actually do it though, there’s no more teletext to decode :crying_cat_face:

also from the late 70s, something else, a bbc show produced by teenagers. very sensitive teenagers who cared about issues and wrote poems and folk songs about their feelings.


A similar video of New York in 1993 shot on an HD vhs system.

edit-Found the video both these videos came from:

Here’s a D-VHS Demonstration tape, featuring HD recordings of Japan, America, and Spain from the early to late 90s. Pretty cool shit not gonna lie.

This was played back on my JVC DH30000U D-VHS player, recorded with the Elgato Game Capture HD with component cables. 1080i60 video deinterlaced to 1080p60 with Handbrake.

Any sort of weird glitches is the fault of my player, or the tape, not sure. Not sure how to fix it.


THIS THREAD RULES im posting because posting instead of hitting the tracking button is what i do

i was a huge fan of disabledavantgarde for a while

also leigh bowery in general

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carolina camera was a neat little show i would watch FULL OF FACTS it reminded me of errol morris documentaries