2025: being sent into the wastes to find a TPM module for the vault computer. Your people are counting on you to get them security updates and shorter load times
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Gosh build-your-own PC has gone from “no, no, it’s really not a big deal, I’ll help ya” to “yeah, don’t” in the space of a year
I gave away two GPUs last summer
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Apparently intel PTT counts for windows 11’s purposes so that might just need to be turned on, I’ll give it a shot and see if the compat checker likes it
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I’m really glad we’re looping back around to pre-builts being the sane option
now bring back the phone book issues of Computer Shopper
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Of course I have an Ivy bridge cpu and gigabyte tpms seem to be a nonexistent part
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it’s been very very cyclical lately, always has been to some extent but now we get like 6 months of every 3 years when it seems smart
Zotac in my Ivy’s case
The old world is dying etc
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now is the time of monsters (pictured)
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Enabled PTT and a TPM module shows up in device manager but the compat check tool caches the result somewhere and very obviously doesn’t re-check when you tell it do so now I have to fight this stupid piece of software 
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Who the fuck knows what it doesn’t like, the fact that it just says nah, here’s a link to where you can buy a new computer is pretty galling
Like, what do you want me to do here microsoft? Attention required to what??
the query string it sends you to the site with even seems generic?
?OCID=2_pchc_windows_app_omc_win
oh, lmao
8th gen or newer intel is required for some dumb reason
well, good luck with that one microsoft, this is the absolute worst possible time to get people to upgrade hardware
Windows Processor Requirements Windows 11 Supported Intel Processors | Microsoft Docs
damn, those stupid tpm modules already shipped too
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Wonder if it has to do with spectre/meltdown hardware mitigations
The 7700k was literally the worst processor to buy, what a fool I was
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No support for first-gen Ryzen e.g. no 1600 but yes 2600. IIRC they’re not very distinct
Huh?? That’s a really short list of processor models. What are they thinking
My Haswell desktop is several generations older than that and I’ve felt little need to upgrade it so far because every game runs just fine on it. I was thinking I’d need to upgrade when cross-plat games dropped support for PS4 (so stopped being optimized for old CPUs), but I didn’t expect Windows would be a reason
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No mitigations in the 8700k (released October 2017 before news broke) so it sure seems arbitrary
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Will it actually refuse to install on these older CPUs or is this merely of a case of declared support then?
I think in the reverse case (Win10 on pre-Skylake) you just need to trick the installer’s whitelist, but the Win11 installer has been picky as far as press can tell.
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It must be the Android app support feature which is reliant on new Intel hardware then right? That’s a first-class feature of Windows 11, and to avoid consumer confusion they’d rather block old CPUs than not be able to guarantee it’s there
I don’t own one but my understanding is that Ryzen 1XXX and 2XXX are very similar so I’m skeptical it’s any platform feature dependency
Re: arbitrariness, it also specifies a 720p screen with a diagonal size of at least 9" which seems like a challenge to @Felix to dig out his Dell Venue 8 and/or a cull of the netbooks and Win8 tablets
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