if it doesn’t end with you killing (a) god, is it even technically a jrpg?
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well not everyone has been posting here for 15 years straight, felix!!!
also you changed call of duty to watch dogs i saw that
anyway its still fun to talk about the NORMIE CANON of games here because like ive said a million times, everyone has unique and thoughtful viewpoints. games reporting in the outside world touches on the same five tedious points, cant remember more than six months in the past, and then memes everything to death on twitter. everything that isnt memed is cancelled for not being woke enough. THAT’S tedious
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yeah I was trying to think of a better example for the point I was making!!
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i was following this until xenoblade x was mentioned and i hate that fucking thing so much i’m flailing and shrieking
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was it watch dogs that had people waiting in a realtime line in a warehouse to get missions
but what is a god, besides that which you kill to end a story? 
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The problem a lot of fairly recent JRPGs have for many people, is that they are very Anime. And if we are going to say that many recent western games actually share a lot of DNA with JRPGs; Then, Anime is the difference and often the dividing line for western players liking them or not.
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PS whenever anyone asks what my favourite game is I’m obliged to answer that it’s a jRPG and I am getting too old to have to be explaining myself that much
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i don’t know how useful this whole argument is, but it might also be worthwhile to reframe this stuff in the context of a (relative) decline in jrpg popularity starting in the mid 00s and to look at what the demographic equivalent in terms of popularity became afterwards? because it seems reasonable that games like yakuza attracted/continue to attract similar types of fans as did psx and ps2-era jrpg fans, and that’s partially because they took up something important (if sometimes intangible) from the appeal of those games. i say this as someone whose favorite games are in large part jrpgs as traditionally understood and who doesn’t care for yakuza very much for various reasons.
like, fujoshis LOVE yakuza
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i still get a rush from lecturing people that favorites is a horrible way to approach a rich and bountiful medium that i love, then just tell them the last thing i watched/played/listened to/read
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I mostly bring up the JRPG thing because there has been a vocal group of YKZ fans shitting on 7 as soon as the turn based combat was revealed, and it just cracks me up.
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this just makes me think of kotaku headlines like “why Atelier Dorkus is a queer icon” though and if I had my druthers I would just mass find and replace those to “you don’t need to expend this much effort rationalizing your atavistic antisocial hobby”
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i absolutely started excitedly posting about the mechanics as a fuck you to those particular yakuza fans
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yeah its fucking boring that the height of Progressive Games Journalism is livejournal slash fiction
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this is also why i keep bringing it up. also felix is an old man and hearing him complain about anime is boomer shit. Im going to buy him a shirt for Christmas next year that says OF COURSE I CUM FAST I GOT FFT TO PATCH
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the other day someone asked me what my favourite anime was and i just shrugged and made the i don’t know noise (an honest answer)(i need to figure out a way of introducing tokusatsu and sukeban stuff to my new friends)
rpgs were popular in the us and uk in the late 90s because they were essentially a whole anime series that came on 1-4 discs and only cost $40 instead of coming on 10-50 vhs tapes and costing hundreds of dollars.
that’s also why they sank in popularity for like 10 years after dvds became cheap and streaming became viable.
now they’re back thanks to a combination of nostalgia and people just being bored of the deliberately bland aesthetics of most western aaa games.
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I do admire reducing the entire argument to “an entire generation’s minds were broken by big battle angel alita eyes and they only ever wanted to get that fix as cheaply as possible”
maybe we can get Houellebecq and Pynchon to collaborate on their own version of good omens with that premise
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it’s not the eyes, mr. out of touch tv executive, it’s the chuuni shit
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being forced to see these kotaku articles in an unending slideshow like The Parallax View is absolutely how they’re going to try to break me at a CIA black site in 5 years
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a sissy ray comes across the sky
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looking forwards to having to use one of those space blankets to fool chinese drone thermal imaging to avoid the sissy ray as i head to the store to buy hot pockets
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