Amateur(?) Flight Simulator games

So I finally played Sky Odyssey last night. I beat the first Adventure mission. Now I have to follow the train and land on it I guess. It’s pretty fun so far! I like how you can remove everything from the hud if you want. Definitely going to spend some time on this game and probably try to beat it.

I also heard about this game for the original Xbox, Crimson Skies. Seems like a lot of what I was looking for. Anybody play that one?

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crimson skies is rad but very arcadey. I used to play the multiplayer mode a lot.

there’s almost nothing better than doing a loop-de-loop around a skybridge in art-deco Chicago to mow down a tail

Crimson Skies is one of the few action games I find myself playing more elegantly than I can think

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One of the (the?) last great X-Wingalikes.

the earlier windows only crimson skies was more x-wing-a-like than the xbox crimson skies.

I still need to track down and play the Crimson Skies board game (which was the first thing called Crimson Skies)

I suspect it has been completely obsoleted by the frankly excellent X-Wing Miniatures game (and the earlier dogfighting miniatures game, Wings of War).

so here’s my question

is art-deco sky pirates novel to Crimson Skies, stolen by Tale Spin? Or the other way around? Or mutual application of '30s serial nostalgia and sky pirates?

Talespin definitely came first, but I think crimson skies happens to coincidentally implement the same setting type. Theres a lot more development to the setting than we even see in the video games because FASA was all about contextualizing and justifying the main action of their games.

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Yeah, I like how land transit is severed to justify air travel. I remember writing a sky pirate campaign setting based on this and the 2009 crash…let’s see

oh yeah, I called them the ‘derivative seven’, speculated they had shorted the Great Depression and polluted ground-level cities beyond inhabitance.

haha I have a 2009 picture of Bernie Sanders as one of the banker overlords

Don’t forget Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow, which I feel like must be aping some 30’s serials I don’t know about? When aviation was new and vivid and exciting (see also, e.g., the centrality of the Aviator’s profession in The Little Prince) but before the nuclear age.

Yeah, looking up ‘sky pirates’ tells me a bunch of '30s serials featured the concept, prominently Buck Rogers. So the Crimson Skies/Talespin/Sky Captain placing it in the '30s makes sense as a retread of those serials.

Boy was Sky Captain joyless.

I really liked it when it came out. Google tells me I was 20 at the time.

Let’s see, I was…18? and anticipating it, because I like formal experiments, anti-irony. But I didn’t like how still and grand all the buildings and robots seemed, the lack of charisma I felt from our heroes, the lack of a good joke; the muted color palette matched my feelings throughout.

Are you guys saying you only enjoyed it because you were younger?

I didn’t.

Oh, my first suggestion would have been High Road to Revenge but for some reason I stated to doubt my fond memories of it. Glad to hear I wasn’t mistaken.

Has anybody tried SimplePlanes? Wasn’t this game called something else a while back? It’s on sale right now, and I’m intrigued.

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as a lapsed aviation nerd and lego fan this looks like my dream lego game

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Why do I keep getting MISS at the airship carrier?

I’ve been playing Hudson’s Wing Island a little today and it might be something that fits this thread. Simple wiimote controls (and I don’t think it uses IR so it’s not too fiddley), different mission types. It’s nothing special so far though.

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I’ve seen that game before while trying to find hidden wii gems. It always looked too generic to try. Is it any good?