I continue to insist that Marvelizing the Doom lore is literally the most cliche, mass market facing thing they could have done with it and it is uninteresting by definition. I am so bored by it
big oof
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yeah it looks dumb. even right when Doom 2016 first came out i was always skeptical of the Doom rebrand, and everything thatās come after seems to confirm my skepticism. iām not sure Doom was ever a thing that needed an official relaunch, but itās a lucrative nameā¦ so of course they canāt not continue to make those games. just like with everything else. truly dire.
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classic Doom has this base of D&D campaigns and heavy metal coversā¦cheap, trashy entertainment. It keeps it honest; it appeals to adolescent urges because it really lives in adolescent aesthetics
Now itās big & expensive and technically this is an adolescent aesthetic in 2020 but worse itās also a middle-aged-adultās aesthetic. Itās expensive and soulless and any counterculture glimmers are just buffed out by relentless focus on lore and scale
Doom Eternal feels like what we feared Doom 2016 would be. Not that nu-Doom isnāt that but it had the wits to fight itself
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Iām kinda in to some of the excess like the space fortress in the shape of Doom Guys head and schlocky monster characterizations. The ādeep loreā was just a step to far and felt so much of grasping at being epic for the audience.
The best thing about 2016 was framing Doomguy as this guy tired of everyone thinking they know best about how to use Hell and is trying to just clean up the mess. Even being doom guy does not make him immune to the systemic oppression of capitalism. He has to take it like an adult that even if he is an errand boy heās gonna at least get his job done.
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this is pretty nice of them, I already have the whole top row (mostly as other freebies w the exception of witness) but Iāll definitely play paper beast and thumper I was hearing enough good stuff about horizon
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From the Anodyne folks
And one other:
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Just gonna repost this article I revisit every so often apropos of nothing.
https://bulletpointsmonthly.com/2020/08/08/all-their-engines-by-tara-hillegeist
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THE DOOM SCROLLERRRRRR
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are they gearing up for a DooM/WH40K crossover
isnāt that just DooM (or 40K)?
Thereās that very thin line between self-serious and self-stupid and it makes all the difference between goofy-dark of Max Max, Judge Dredd, 40k (works for me), old Doom, and the grim bombast of Doom Eternal and Marvel movies. Itās cosmic Kirby next to Marvel movies; the world might be deadly serious to its fictional inhabitants but itās vibrating in a quantum uncertainty between goofy & satirical and serious & epic; both halves are destroyed if you focus in on a part
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i think you really nailed it here:
doom (1993) riffed on the satanism + metal moral panic of the 80s (and ironically was greeted by itās own moral panic) and things that middle america moral panics over are inherently kinda goofy because the Real Transgressive Shit is mostly underground & invisible to fundie pearl clutchers*
so then all those boys grow up and want to recapture that sort of dangerousness so they think the way to do it is āthe same thing, but more Epic And Seriousā because theyāre grown mature adults now and want to be respected for liking doom/comics/etc this time, but they wind up jettisoning any of the campy fun stuff in the process
*i think the 90s gangsta rap moral panic is an exception here in that the forces reacting to it used a moral panic over violence as a smokescreen to suppress & dismiss legitimate social criticism
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I like thinking about how SMT is exactly how fundies described Pokemon in the 90s
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yeah
I think a huge amount of the Bad in pop culture of the last decade is adults trying to justify why they can still like media designed for children, or trying to put adult themes inside forms designed for the simple worldviews/lies we tell children
just say you enjoy media designed for children! you can still be an adult!
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waiting for Naughty Dog to snatch up that Dragon Ball licence
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Itās so depressing to hear this from 20 year old kids re: Sonic. They need apocalyptic shonen pretension for cartoon mascot animals with a dozen points of articulation.
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why canāt you guys just be like Doomguy and ignore everyone vomiting lore at you and just kill demons
I got into the Doomguy spirit after I was told I couldnāt shoot a hole in Mars and decided to shoot a hole in Mars
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god I hate video games
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the problem is that sega showed everyone that this was possible and also really cool when they made sonic adventure 2 and everyoneās been wanting that high to return ever since.
hopefully, since they treat characters that debut in the idw comics as canon, theyāll start using that seriesā tone in future games. i think it strikes a good balance between whimsical fun and shonen action.
! I think a piece of my brain just clicked into place
Is that what people like about Sonic Adventure 2, that itās a more clear shonen plot with a more coherent endstage escalation than the first?
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