i’ll dm you tomorrow @stylo to work it out
while we’re on the topic of midi fighters tho:
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I can never figure out the rhyme or reason of how people lay out their sets with those.
The right half seems like it’s in some MPC mode with the repitched samples, but the areas that he has triggering everything else seems sort of arbitrary to me.
i dunno why you’d use a trigger system with no velocity sensors or aftertouch
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it’s the same reason you’d want to ride a single speed with no brakes
it’s cuz we don’t brake
(more seriously tho having sanwa buttons on a midi controller feels good enough to forget about velocity or aftertouch on a controller especially if you’re not good enough at finger drumming for either of those to be something you rely on, I know I’m definitely not good enough at it)
from another youtube video it seems like he has sample bank switches mapped to a button and 4 buttons are banks within banks, so there’s probably some sort of framework for like, percussion on the left hand and pitched samples on the right and quick bank switches make the transitions between different parts of the song relatively seamless
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like 80% of the mpc users i’ve seen online use the mpc permanently in “full level” mode which removes all velocity sensitivity
apart from keyboards i haven’t seen pad controllers that are actually good with velocity so if you’re into that style of thing for sample based production i think having buttons that feel good > all
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still resisting buying a new guitar (i’m gonna ride this squier till the frets fall off) but i did buy a drum practice pad and sticks
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So I bought myself a Pocket Operator KO cheap on eBay and have had too much fun with it so far. So I should probably get like…a real sampler? Any recs?
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i can recc the shit i work on, but even the ‘entry level’ model does way more than sampling and so is cumbersome if you just literally want to come up with your own instrument groups
i’d look around for a roland sp404 or maybe one of korg’s sampling electribes
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yeah, sp404 is probably the answer.
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I love my 404! Unless you can get an amazing deal on an MPC, it’s probably your best bet:
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Oh I’m cool with it doing more, but yeah, a 404 was definitely one of the things I was looking at. What of the stuff you work on would you rec?
so the cheapest mpc is the mpc one (think it’s up to a ferocious $800ish new), which has exactly the same operating software and brain as the even pricier units, you just miss out on extended on-board i/o, more dedicated knobs, larger pads, rechargeable battery power etc
means it will sample, edit samples, sequence them in a variety of ways, modify their playback timbre, timestretch, provide some amount of multitrack recording mixing and processing, sync all your external midi gear, automate parameter changes, export full tracks… it’s very much a daw in a box, we don’t make anything more stripped back and affordable, would be a pretty dramatic leap up from a pocket op in every sense
a 404 definitely less fuss for less cash
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Is there anything in between that can do this? That’s the one feature I wish I had.
Besides a SK-1?
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Yeah that is kinda a big feature. Not sure if it is 250 bucks worth of big, but.
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the sp404 actually costs more than i thought it was, if you are seriously wanting to spend time on sample based music, the mpc is an infinitely nicer experience imo.
i’ve spent way too much time thinking about an mpc live ii recently. i totally do not need it, but it looks nice!
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korg volca sample and electribe 2 sampler can both do some amount of fucking around with filtering, envelopes, pitch correction
failing all these standalone objects, consider looking for sampling/sequencing/etc phone apps, they certainly exist
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Oh I forgot about electribes. I did have some really nice sampler apps, including the official mpc one, for my old iPad but I never really got comfortable with incorporating it or getting an external sound card to handle the line in aspect. I should investigate that again.
I was lucky and got a used original 404 for super cheap through a friend of a friend. But yeah it’s one of those things that I’m deathly afraid of breaking since replacing it would be painful.
This is very much on the what’s the current SK-1 train, than something on the same level as the 404 or an mpc, but the microgranny has pretty much taken its place in my rig. It has a smaller footprint, can (kind of) be driven by my sq-1, and has some fun granular sample sort of controls and space for multiple samples. I don’t feel like I’m using it to it’s full potential but that’s pretty much any instrument and me.
i was demoing this to @LWJoestar on discord the other night, but if anyone wants an intro to how mpc does sampling and sample wrangling, just download MPC Beats for free, you get a limited number of tracks per project but otherwise it behaves identically to the guts of a live/one/x because it’s literally the same software ported to the linux platform those hardware units are running
you can even hook up midi controllers to simulate all the buttons and knobs you won’t have
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