I tried watching it on Netflix and I think the format isn’t for me, like, I theoretically understand it but I find the steamedhamlike Kramer meme funnier oops
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loving these seinfeld dislikers
having seinfeld on the tv but not really paying attention to it is a fundamental part of my childhood, and actively watching it on netflix made me really appreciate how sublimely the characters walk the line between awful and likeable. except jerry
i should clarify that the first season kind of sucks, and i had to stop watching around mid-season 4 because it really tanked. somehow all the “classics” are behind that gate which is hilarious because it became really unwatchable to me at that point.
but seriously, all of the characters are like, aspirational levels of terrible. i wish i was as godawful as any of them
except jerry, of course
anyway, not liking seinfeld is completely unthinkable to me which of course means i like trying to think about it
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maybe I just got used to It’s Always Sunny and need even worse people (no laugh track)
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yeah always sunny freaks me out, it’s a little too evil for me to be able to watch it and laugh. but i respect it.
yeah I don’t see any reason to dip into seinfeld sincerely in a post it’s always sunny world.
That doesn’t mean we can’t enjoy classic works such as The Senpai.
there are a million reasons, “a show about bad people” totally misses the point, Larry David and Larry Charles together have this very specific absurdist Americana sensibility that never really existed elsewhere (except when like, Malkmus would rip off Baudelaire lyrically, that was somehow similar), like the references to Joe DiMaggio that basically amount to intrusive thoughts… Nothing like it
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this thought is underdeveloped but Nb I posted it after having four beers at a minor league baseball game
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ok i can’t cosign whatever you’re saying about pavement or whatever but yes
i’m warm enough toward sunny but you don’t have to zoom out far before it starts to look like a seinfeld caricature husk imo. like when a new tv show does a twin peaks homage episode and it’s just a diner and pie or whatever. ok maybe not that bad
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I get the Seinfeld comparisons for Sunny and think it’s funny when they lean into them, but they’re pretty different IMO. Seinfeld doesn’t have that kind of surreal undercurrent and despite being remembered as “a show about horrible people” doesn’t really go out of its way to make the characters seem cartoonishly wicked or incompetent. Because of the way Seinfeld is remembered it feels like I’m telling on myself by admitting this, but I honestly find a lot of what happens on the show to be pretty relatable? I mean the characters sort of respond in exaggerated ways or like do things that people might think but not actually follow through on, but their motivations are still basically understandable to me. Sunny on the other hand just seems to constantly be making the characters make the worst decisions possible, which is funny for totally different reasons.
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who else is excited for the Final Chapter of See
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yoooooo
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The thing about Seinfeld is that it wasn’t aware how horrible the characters were until after the show turned to shit
Will always celebrate Bobcat’s review of the show as the most realistic assessment of the dynamic
“Here is this creepy Scientologist guy dating teenage girls - which I don’t care about one way or another. What I find creepy is that people are convinced he lives in that apartment, and those are his wacky friends. They don’t like each other; they’re actors paid to pretend they like Jerry Seinfeld. He’s a weird guy. But everybody thinks he’s normal and I’m weird.”
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You know it’s right because Jerry Seinfeld has used his money and power to try and ruin Bobcat for saying this for like 20 years.
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I like the sitcom parts of Seinfeld, but boy howdy, his little standup bits he opens and closes the episode with are deep garbage. It’s amazing he was such a popular standup comic. It’s all the most boring and unoriginal, anodyne trash. “wow what’s the deal with laundry machines? Your clothes all spin around, I bet they get nauseous in there lol!” Also, half the bits are about stereotypical differences he sees between men and women. I guess the 90’s were a different time for comedy.
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i am probably projecting but honestly because Seinfeld grew up in the same town as me he mostly just reminds me of a number of people i grew up with. he’s like, a type of guy who just happened to become a famous comedian. for the record, i don’t really like this kind of guy, but i learned to endure them.
idk - i see Seinfeld the show mostly as a vessel for delivering comedy as an abstract idea. for the characters themselves, i feel like it’s a wasted exercise to analyze their morality since it’s not the point. the characters are specifically designed to never evolve, just deliver the funny.
i don’t think this is true; Larry David has commented before that he was horrified that he kept making George worse and worse and it made people like him more. even after making George explicitly racist, people still loved the character
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the Bobcat Goldthwait feud was very memorable on Larry Sanders as well, Garry Shandling did a great deconstruction of that whole persona
idk I think you’re all spending far too much energy on trying to hold something against someone here
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I really need to watch Larry Sanders. Hey, maybe it’s on HBO Max, aka The Streaming Service With Actual Stuff On It
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it is and it’s goated as fuck
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Criticizing seinfeld just turns me into a seinfeld character, I know
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yeah like I don’t think it’s remotely contentious to say that jerry is and was the least interesting part of the show (self-consciously so!) but to imply that he had nothing to do with the good parts is silly and to spend the bulk of your attention on his obviously criticism-worthy public life is also kind of silly
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