Tom's Hardware of Finland

I’ve never once built a computer and it just came on the first try

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If it does it probably means you’re cursed and it will slowly develop some absolutely maddening problem which will result in enough troubleshooting that you question how it ever worked in the first place

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my experience of overclocking iGPUs is that you absolutely shouldn’t, it always ruins a very constrained voltage curve for negligible gains

the consensus on overclocking the Vega iGPUs is that it’s brain dead and you can easily get an extra 2-300 mhz out of it for a very little bump in SoC voltage and the only constraints are cooling and memory bandwidth (I more or less hit the wall as I got no changes between 1350 and 1500 mhz)

I should probably mention that I got a nice 33% boost in framerate

…that sounds better than going from 30 to 40, right

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I keep getting “snowy” images or audio dropouts whenever I’m pushing HDMI cable bandwidth. Is the wisdom c. 2006 no longer applicable and I should get certified premium cables? Right now I can do HDR, surround audio, or be free of artifacting. (Using high speed w/ ethernet cables of what should be the right spec at 6 ft long.)

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Somebody recommend a router that will be better at wifi than the dogshit default one that you get from your ISP. I remember somebody posted this weird winged sucker that was just the right kind of grotesque?

A separate wireless access point is my recommendation, if your wired speeds are alright. Most are power over ethernet and give you a lot of flexibility in placement in addition to vastly better performance.

Ubiquiti is sort of to go-to for this - good quality, not too expensive, and you can buy them without having to scour ebay or horror of horrors, go through a reseller

I have a Unifi AP AC PRO and it has been completely reliable. Here’s the full list, I guess they have some newer models if you really want to spend the money

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the ap ac pro is only 3x3 802.11ac which is not great compared to some modern routers but ubiquiti gear is indeed very robust and you will actually get the full extent of the performance with them which is not always the case elsewhere

also most of the other ubiquiti gear is $$$, that one is probably the best value

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This is probably an overly simplistic question to ask but: is there a short version of the pros and cons of AMD vs Intel right now? I’m looking to build a high-endish computer with my stimulus check, and I already have my graphics card figured out. I think I can work out everything I need once I make the big decision of which processor to get, but I’ve been kinda stuck on that.

If it helps narrow it down, I’d like some good gaming performance for sure, but I’d probably be willing to err on the side of something good for audio and video editing over raw gaming FPS if came down to it.

In years past, Intel was inarguably the better performer when comparing tech from the same generation, and AMD cost significantly less. These days, the gap in performance has been closed by quite a bit, while AMD still remains cheaper.

As for your last bit, audio and video editing will tend to favor CPUs with more cores and threads, gaming will tend to favor CPUs with the highest raw clock speed, since most games make minimal, if any, use of multi-threading, nevermind multi-core.

AMD’s modern Ryzen CPUs are much more multi-core/threaded focused than Intel’s comparable units, so by straight benchmarks, their CPUs will probably be more efficient for content creation. Intel’s chips tend to get a bit more horsepower for single-threaded applications, though not enough to completely discount AMD given the price difference.

Also worth noting that AMD’s chips tend to be more power efficient in their architecture, though that’s not likely to matter much for most people. More importantly is their newest chipsets already feature support for PCIe 4.0, while Intel is not expected to get that till late this year. So if you’re buying a PC now, that’s something to possibly consider.

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Speaking of CPUs, when the heck are the Chinese fab companies going to start selling their stuff on the global consumer market? I want some damn competition in the CPU industry.

unless your main focus is playing ps3 games in rpcs3 where intel would have a slight advantage, I think for normal ass people who don’t post on tech site comment sections and immediately replace their cpu and gpu every new microarchitecture release the differences between a current amd and intel at this point aren’t going to be meaningfully noticeable in actual life except in how much more you spent for the intel.

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I don’t know that there’s a case to be made for intel at any price bracket right now. just figure out what you want to pay and get the amd chip that slots into that price range. you’ll pay less for the motherboard, too.

yeah I wouldn’t buy Intel on desktop (AMD is still useless in the 10-15w range you want on a laptop but even there they’re sneaking up) period until they at least have a full 7nm lineup (late next year?), since the Ryzen 3000 series AMD has been been straight better and you still wouldn’t go wrong with a 2600/2700/1600AF.

you should only buy an nvidia GPU though, the auxiliary benefits of their dominance in GPU computing are too high. you may be certain you only want to play games but you’d be surprised what turnkey CUDA stuff gets released every year

Oh I’ve got a GTX 1080 laying around that’s seriously throttled by my current processor. I’m popping that out of my old machine and into the new one.

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everyone already said a thing but my opinion is that BUY COARS

AS MANY COARS AS UYO CAN AFFORD

HOCK A KIDNEY AND BUY A 3990X FOR 3990X US DOLLARS

seriously, if you’re moving over a GTX 1080, I would spring for at least a R5 3600

I want to argue about this because there’s fuck all else to do but then it came out that the RTX Voice thing can run on GTX cards via CUDA and I would look dumb yell about it

short version is the current and most Chinese of CPUs (since the Hygon chips are based on AMD IP) is repurposed VIA x86 design, which means it’s a direct decedent of Cyrix designs. their newer chips coming down the line should be faster but still won’t be a match for anything modern from Intel or AMD

this is ignoring the discussion of whose backdoors you would feel more comfortable having in your computer, America’s or China’s

honestly my 3570k almost never bottlenecks my Titan Xp

eh, the bump in IPC for an extra 40-80 bucks is worth it for the extra bit of future proofing

yeah I wouldn’t want to get a CPU that’s meaningfully below Intel IPC either so that pretty much means the 3000 series, but I don’t think a 2xxx Ryzen will actually be painful for that GPU in real terms

I wouldn’t even dream of giving a 2000 series chip a nod unless you need a cheap APU; the 1600AF has effectively supplanted the 2600 as the budget choice and if you want more cores instead of single thread performance, a 2700 is in the same price bracket as the 3600

so that’s how I’m arriving to it being the only sane choice for a computer for play game and occasional creative workloads

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