Star Trek Thread: Nemesis 2: Nemeses, etc. (Part 1)

i like the evil goatee convention of the mirror universe as much as anyone but am also intrigued by this interpretation of it as a parallel reality where everyone is absolutely ripped to the point that an entire culture has rejected sleeve technology

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@jsnlv and I finished DS9 for the first time tonight. Garak is by far my fave Trek character ever and while this series finished amazingly and blew past TNG for me, Voyager was my first and will always have my :heart:.

We followed up the finale by watching The Captains again and damn Avery Brooks. Damn.

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I’m like four episodes from the end myself! I prefer TNG

are there any italians on TNG? Is that why?

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Lwaxana

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She’s better in DS9 though

Wasn’t she in the second worst episode? The one where everyone gets space horny

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Yeah but like all the worst DS9 episodes (Except profit and lace) it slides deep into entertainingly bad IIRC?

I mean sure it’s not as fun to watch as Move Along Home but…what shitty DS9 episode is?

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Yeah her worst DS9 episode is still gonna be better than the time she hung around that weird ass holodeck theme park with Alexander.

will not hear a word said against this guy

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watched most of tng last year but have been hesitant to move onto ds9, idk, it seems it just has a lower baseline cast goofiness threshold due to the emphasis on space politics etc. have been meaning to watch one of the ds9 lwaxana eps for comparative purposes though.

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also my report on TNG is that the moment i think about the most, by far, is the part from one of the first season episodes about “what you think about becomes real” where picard finds a crew member wiggling fearfully in place going AHH… AHHHH! and picard says STOP. STOP THINKING ABOUT FIRE. and the crew member pauses for a second and then relaxes and goes “phew!!”.

the moment i think about the second most is the one with Joe the Borg or whatever his name was when geordi and data casually, offscreen, whip up a working version of some kind of self-propogating cosmic horror polygon of infinite unfoldable fractal edges to essentially send back to them under humanitarian guise in the same manner as a smallpox blanket. and picard thinks about it and eventually goes mmmmm better not.

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There’s an episode of ds9 where they play baseball against a team of vulcans

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TNG has a kind of LARPing atmosphere in that the dual sense that the storylines are sometimes half-baked in a lightly humorous way, and in the later seasons, the cast feels like a bunch of friends enjoying their time with each other. Will always be my favorite Star Trek

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DEATH TO THE OPPOSITION

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When that episode began I was shocked it took them until the last season to have a baseball episode with how much Sisko loved it.

Same with the later episode with Sisko singing.

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though the baseball straw millionaire episode is probably the second best episode to focus on jake sisko.

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Every television show’s baseball episode is its best episode

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exception: arrested development s2e7

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Season six of Voyager makes me think that it’s the best season of Voyager but only because it’s just a bunch of pretty stable sci-fi episodes. I feel like by this point they’ve completely given up on any kind of threat or drama of being stuck in the Delta quadrant. We all know we are getting Home let’s just do some decent sci-fi stories for the season. Voyager is a weird show where some individual episodes can be pretty good but they really have dropped the ball on an interesting premise. Why aren’t there more Tuvok episodes dammit.

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Maybe the problem is that the lost-in-space idea is more of an arc premise than a series premise. It would be good if planned out to fill say 2 seasons and completed to be followed by the next arc, but it’s extremely awkward to somehow extend it to an indefinite number of episodes

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