シン・[s]ゴジラ[/s]Persona 5 (not) superplay thread

Feeling good about fursonas is good

One day I’ll figure out why people get mad at Undertale but probably not

Never forget gigantic Troops post that treated it as the worst thing ever blasted onto Earth’s hellscape

You could criticize his characterization. You know, like how you criticize any other piece of media

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wow, uh

y’all have fun in here, peace

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my bugbear here is that, if alphys and undyne are supposed to be a good example of queer representation, why does no one mention that there’s more naturalistic dialog between queer characters in the average bioware game? the only conclusion I can get to is that undertale is very strongly associated with a particular queer aesthetic, and it’s very pleasant and successful in that, but the main thesis of every “are we really putting undertale on the same level as mother?” argument is “stop confusing politics with aesthetics” and I think this is a pretty good example of that.

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I don’t understand why/how this matters

ding ding ding

aesthetics are political

and vice versa

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I think I’ve said it before, but I recognize people in my social circles in Alphys and Undyne and their interactions, so the takes that they’re not “naturalistic” – in a heavily-stylized game! – absolutely baffle me.

Just because something is rooted in the attitudes and experiences of social scenes and generations disconnected from your own, and it doesn’t have the same emotional connection for you, doesn’t make it “wrong.”

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sure, I guess my main issue is that there’s not much there in undertale’s case – I think nongendered protagonists are the bee’s knees and I agree, it’s just a good lowkey thing to do, but to elevate “a highly performative tumblr dialogue between two anthropomorphic female characters” beyond everything that’s going on in mother 2/3 is a really boring read.

it seems like the original use of “better politics” that I responded to was actually more about “less utter-red-flag mickey rooney-in-breakfast at tiffany’s shit” rather than an overall more interesting and more complex politics. which is probably more of a misunderstanding (and/or insufficient sensitivity to what “politics” immediately means for some people) than anything else. is that fair?

I’m not arguing for its wrongness, I’m arguing for its insignificance

Mother 3 didn’t connect with me at all, and I have no idea what you see in it, so I guess we’re even?

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you started this conversation by < text screaming > at someone for daring to suggest an indie game with an avowed queer fanbase had better politics than a game where it’s heavily implied a kid gets molested by a transvestite

Amidst a conversation about how the hot new JRPG Persona 5™ handles abuse and homosexuality in an utterly tired, offensive way

Yeah seems fair to say there was some misunderstanding going on!

fair

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All fanbase are belong to abyss

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FUCKING FIGHT ME

(thank u for being patient w/ me im sorry for coming off harsh)

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it’s OK I’m being an unrepentant snob

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Real quick boring mechanic question sorry;

What is equipment that can transmute? I can’t figure it out and I dun wanna fight a wiki

mostly stuff that you get from mementos and the dark web, it tends to have surprisingly low stats, “black” name and description alluding to transmutations

I mean, what is it for? I got a bunch of it

Ah, at certain point, you can execute Personas to transmute those items into unique equipment (better than standard shop stuff)

I think the way to do it was Electric Chair, the summer vacation unlock

Cool, glad I held on to it.

I don’t know if I care enough to advance the S-Link with the Prison Guard girls to start fusing all these damn Personas

Was I the only one who didn’t look up a guide and had kind of fun doing this in P4 with the Margaret S-link? Unless they’ve changed it the systems surrounding fusion are relatively simple as long as you have that chart they include in the manual around the details how the arcanas interact.