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it’s a popular place to set movies and TV shows because it is an abnormally sedate and walkable part of LA county (which is why I live here). I haven’t actually watched the Apple TV jason sudeikis harrison ford therapist show but someone told me that it prominently features the coffee shop 4 blocks from me

Altman’s The Player is maybe the most notable Pasadena Movie I can think of (Tim Robbins plays a Hollywood producer who follows a writer out here and kills him in an alleyway and then Whoopi Goldberg who is investigating the murder pointedly says that they actually solve crimes out here because they’re not the LAPD)

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George of the Jungle has this too, my favourite part

SF romcoms got me thinking about The Sweetest Thing

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please don’t watch this. please never make me think about it again

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the channel built into my tv that only plays kardashian shows in chronological order (like it shoves the spinoffs between episodes where they fit) magically changed into a holiday movies channel while i wasnt looking and so every time i turn on my tv to switch to plex or youtube or whatever streaming service i actually want to watch something on, instead of getting a few seconds of rich people screaming at eachother over nothing, i get a few seconds of people at doors awkwardly introducing themselves or an establishing shot of snow

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Was excitedly told today by my absolute garbage tv watching mother that there is a Hallmark movie called Miracle in Bethlehem, PA, which is where we currently are aka where I grew up. I guess I have to watch this junk sometime

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you know that this is tempting fate to bring into existence a Hallmark release where this is the setup for the romantix plot to pick up steam, right…

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Hot Frosty (2024) - yes, it is the season - the season to learn a valuable lesson about opening our hearts to the world, and those parts of it that consist of novelty snowman-related romance media. when i started watching this i was perturbed. wasn’t it by netflix? hadn’t the title alone already pushed it into lowgrade meme status? was this the real deal OR would it be all-too-knowing pastiche, the equivalent of sharknado for all the hallmark movies about having sex with a ghost? but bit by bit my suspicions faded, and i was finally won over by a scene where the titular Hot Frosty asks the heroine “What’s cancer?” after stumbling upon her backstory readables from a big box in the basement. and while wearing a sleeveless denim onesie. high concept is fun and all but certain kinds of trash are hard to fake.

anyway YES this is about a woman who falls in love with a snowman who comes to life on christmas when she gives it a lucky scarf (not her lucky scarf, but another couple’s lucky scarf that she gets as a gift the same day…?). i think this is the real make or break point for the movie bc the snowman looks like this!

like he has nipples and everything!! what’s wrong with the ones that are just three balls piled together? i know plenty of good guys like that. anyway if you can get past this softpedalling of the premise it happily picks up speed after that. the most charming part of the movie is probably how literally it takes the title - i believe every single lady with a speaking role in the film is at one point or another implied to be down bad for this snowman, crashing their cars into snowdrifts as they watch him working on the roof etc. and even more endearingly everyone in the movie except the heroine is depicted as pretty instantly on board with the idea that he’s actually a magical snowman turned to life (it takes her about 20 minutes to give in).

the stuff with the snowman himself is fine, it’s not gonna win any awards for worldbuilding or whatever. as soon as he magically turns into a guy he knows how to walk around and speak english, but not what clothes or food are. so he’s basically just at the level of like time travelling knights in these movies who talk aout cars like “yon metal steed”. he does seem to have intrinsic knowledge of what property means and what laws and money are. he gets sweaty in warm areas and people talk about him “melting” but it’s unfortunately not the kind of movie where this manifests in any more visible ways… although the guy playing the snowman has that kind of unsettlingly gamey, human growth hormone look to his muscles that kept reminding me of a special effect. thankfully he harnesses his powers for good and learns how to do helpful DIY around the house by watching tv all day. it’s good for you!! media effects.

the heroine is lacey chabert from mean girls so they put in some gags like where she sees a clip of lindsay lohan in last year’s netflix xmas movie on the tv and says she looks like a girl she went to school with… there’s also an aldovia mention. witness the beginning of a dark universe. in general she’s less interesting than any other minor characters though. the movie gets stolen a bit by craig robinson as the sherriff with a very 2005ish mild shaft parody thing going on, like when he comes in the subtitles announce the music is “70s funk” but it’s this forlorn midtempo stock music track with like mayyybe the faintest possible bit of wahwah to it. for a romcom a surprising amount (that is, any) of the plot is explicitly framed in terms of police overreach and the police as a force with their own priorities that can be at odds with both local government and the needs of the citizenry. i mean they don’t exactly explore the theme in detail but it was interesting to me, since off the top of my head i can think of about 0 other movies in this thread where that’s even suggested. anyway, i liked that the sherriff had a little toy keyboard in his office that he’d noodle on while singing about how it was wrong to do crime.

there’s some good background props too, i like the mural in the doctors office which seems to feature both a street shark and a dog that looks like a member of the problem solverz.

eventually they bust mr frosty for tax evasion public nudity, the town come together to raise his bail (set arbitrarily high bc he has no fingerprints) but it’s too late!! because he dies in prison since it was too warm in there! they carry out his body and there’s a moving sequence where she gives him one last kiss, which causes him to resurrect as a real person… which it’s worth saying never really seems to be his explicit wish a la pinocchio, i guess it’s more like a bonus. in conclusion,

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Hilarious that so much of the film turns on every woman’s raw animal desire for this man’s taut cenobite rictus

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omg it’s just like the Kate Bush song

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paging @thecatamites

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This … has some surprising horror moments aside from the falling-flat-on-your-face romcom-clowning and random plotbeats, but still — has the DP done a proper horror movie before?

Because it sure feels like that every few minutes. Which is cool with me! :servbotsalute:

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Well, if i am falling for christmas … :smirk: … might as well lean into it and do a Lindsey Lohan Double Feature:




errrrrrr… guess i was falling a bit more for Our Little Secret, much to my surprise.
And the DP of this wasn’t in any way shape or form interested in horror movie shots, so if you dig that, go with Little Secret instead.

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a snow globe christmas (2013) - abridged travel review bc im at the inlaws and on my phone, this is an asylum picture and actually comes off more successfully semi-deliberately dumb than hot frosty. alicia witt (gretchen hayward from twin peaks) plays an evil director of hallmark xmas movies thats too much of a perfectionist to let people wrap up early for the holidays. her slogan is “no xmas for the elves” to which everyone else on set responds with a deflated “hoo rah”. in this way she aggravates some kind of supernatural holiday entity and is punished by bonking her head on the huge snowglobe she walks around and absently strokes. when she wakes up from the head trauma she is living in the snowglobe town and married with 2 kids to donald faison aka turk from scrubs. it happens!!

the low budget is pretty endearing. all the outside shots are either like a 10 meter stretch of town corner or a stock photograph. theres a wonderful forest set which is just a single tree with what looks like a rumpled cotton screen behind it (as the director says when she thinks shes still on set “we can’t afford real snow!”). she tries various things to get out incl hurling herself out a window and stealing someones car to drive out of town but is thwarted by xmas entity at every turn.

a funny thing about this one is the extent to which it rejects the usual romcom syncretism. usually when the spiky professional heroine ends up in the idyllic smalltown its more of a two way exchange - she gives in at the end but not before passing some sensible reforms. here she’s more like the angel of death: every suggestion she makes, from holding auditions to professionalise the town’s xmas play to offhandedly mentioning to the mayor that he can raise more money via parking tickets, causes everything around her to descend into squalor and misery. it ends up feeling like a reverse its a wonderful life, about the potential of one ordinary person to make things slightly worse for everyone around them, and i sort of wondered if an angel would show up to urge her to step off a bridge.

in the end she gives in to the xmas spirit, is re-bonked and ends up in her original reality, gives everyone the night off bc nobody watches dtv xmas movies for the production quality, and drives to her college boyfriend donald faisons house. the supernatural xmas entity turns out to be the ghost of his mom, which makes you wonder how bad his dating life was going for her to step in like this. suddenly theres a coda, and its 10 years later and she has the same 2 kids with him that she had in snowglobe reality… is this a timeloop movie?! well, we know that the internet and google do not exist in snowglobe world. so we can assume that at some point in the next ten years an EMP device is activated over the united states and that the survivors of futurewar lock themselves into recreations of halfremembered idylls in huge glass balls which they can never leave due to rads. alternately that the internet is outlawed bc Killer7 background lore becomes real. you heard it here first. buy stocks accordingly.

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I’m gonna ask you to take on this challenge

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Found A Homeless Billionaire Husband For Christmas (2024) - like dracula i only go where i’m invited. i’ve been sort of meaning to check out the tiktok webdramas that @Drem mentioned earlier in the thread, so imagine my delight when it turned out that this movie was actually one of those, but amerikanised by the company ReelShort (“Just Watch It, It’s Reel Short” - quibi lives!!) from their own chinese language original.

after watching the american one in one sitting i checked out a couple episodes of the original for balance. it’s quite a change and i believe sheds some light on usa/china relations. for example the original has some approximations of actual cinematography and is focused at first around the female lead - the male one is just someone she grabs off the street for her own ends in avoiding a marriage and who people kind of assume is a broke nobody bc he’s sort of rumpled and uncommunicative. it’s something like episode 10 (each is <2 minutes long) before the show starts suggesting he has other things going on.



in the usa version however it starts focused on the guy as he sits outside with a sign and the worst fake beard/moustache in existence. 10 seconds later some guys in suits walk up to him and say “boss, you’ve been working undercover as a homeless man for six months now to investigate your uncle’s crimes” and then the female lead comes out in an elf costume and hands him a hamburger. in the original the female lead finds out her fiancee is cheating on her by walking in on him doing someone else in her bridal gown in front of a big mirror; apparently feeling this was too subtle for overseas audiences, the america one has her find out via her fiancee pulling up to the drive through window of her burger workplace while getting head from her cousin in a convertible. and then they get out of the car and start yelling at her!! tbh of all the changes the characterisation of these two was my favourite; in the original they’re disingenuous soap opera characters, in the usa version they’re basically Bulk & Skull. another translation i liked: in the original the female lead makes reference to a “village” and her snotty relatives call her poor. in the usa version they emphasise the class difference by making the heroine from texas, so she wears cowboy boots and a fringed jackets every scene and the other characters refer to her as nought but a “lowly cattle herder.” like quibi, prejudice too is eternal…

anyway aggrieved at this unchivalrous behaviour the homeless billionaire ceo proposes to the girl lead, since apparently her mom and grandma spent all their money on her wedding arrangements already and grandma is dropping strong hints that the prospect of such is the only thing keeping her on this side of the veil. girl lead agrees (i have to keep calling them this since ReelShort doesn’t appear to do any kind of crediting) and soon they’re going down south. this prompts one of the many basically identical scenes that make up like 80% of the running time:

  1. the careerist ex-fiancee and cousin show up to say there’s NO way these broke peasants will be allowed into the airport / highschool reunion / regional texas restaurant / charity auction.

  2. the male lead makes a phone call to “luis”, his second in command, who proceeds to buy the whole building or the airline or whatever

  3. the main two are waved through by all the staff, while their rivals make shocked faces and then find out they’ve been banned from not just that one but ALL the airlines. this is a real scene!!

a funny thing is that the male lead, who sort of looks like one of those memes of handsome iranian men, has no ability to project like hauteur or anything else. so every time the other two are going at him his response is to always just say some shit like, “Indeed.” and then stand there looking like he’s waiting for a coffee. i will say the scenes of the main two being berated as peasants are probably the best part of the movie, especially when the rivals start tag teaming in other characters to dunk on them, like the mean aunt who dresses like jake the snake roberts and who gets the most first-translation-draft insults, like “he is just a vagrant!” “my son-in-law is CLEARLY superior” and, while flinging bracelet, “useless fool!”. sometimes castlevania music plays in the background of these bits. my partner compared the insults to stuff the generals in a romance of three kingdoms game would say to each other before battles.

speaking of, a funny formal effect of the chaining-together-2min-videos-into-a-90min-movie thing: something about the pacing and hard cuts between segments really makes it feel like watching a collection of videogame cutscenes, like every scene feels like between them there should be a gameplay sequence of beating up the same five mob characters in an alley. occasionally this leaks into the plot itself, as when they’re menaced at a restaurant by an evil cowboy called “elon madison” who shows up with cowboy goons to throw steel chairs around and such. i did like that he has a gender-neutral posse.

anyway. the evil cousin gets in some more good lines (“why don’t you two get married in a waste dump” “is anyody here willing to share the room with the homeless and peasants?”) but eventually the heroine realises that maybe this guy who keeps buying ferraris and things to own people may not actually be homeless after all, and it’s worked out after about 2 mins of plot complications. the evil fiancee, who ofc works for the main guy’s company along with the cousin’s rich dad, is summarily disposed of (“just fire them all”), while of elon madison our hero darkly remarks that “i think some hard labour in africa would be good for him” (??) and has his goons take care of the rest. they get married and presumably grandma is satisfied now, or maybe not. when the two leads have to stay at the family house the first night, she parks her wheelchair outside their open door to make sure they’re making out and also gives them some kind of ceremonial family fuckin’ sheet (american custom??) with which to do the deed.

the evil uncle who sets off the homelessness scheme at the beginning of the movie is never mentioned again. i have a horrible desire now to check out the even more evil seeming reelshort offering “money, guns, and a merry christmas” which seems like basically the same plot except now the hero is a billionaire defence contractor. but before then, a tribute to some of the outfits that eased my spirits in this movie.




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do you think the ceremonial fucking sheet is an heirloom?

these characters all dress like they’re going for score in an infinity nikki styling challenge

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Humans really will make art out of anything. An unconquerable species

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Maid For My Nemesis (2024) - my partner’s getting dental work soon so I had a priority request to watch another one of those Homeless Billionaire style 90-second-tiktok-clip movies to forestall any kind of thought in advance. There were some good options on the site, incl Surrender To My Professor - in the thumbnail the stern yet hot professor wears a combination corduroy jacket, denim shirt and poloneck BENEATH both jacket and shirt, which certainly got my attention - but in the end had to go back to this early find, in which a hardworking student president becomes a live in cleaner for her rival while also wearing a full on party city ass maid outfit the whole time. Witness the invention of American Meido.

Firstly I have to say: 90% of my enjoyment of the movie was in the below scene of the hero demanding to be fed pie in bed with his eyes closed

The romance content has this sorta fancam feeling when whenever anything romantic happens it suddenly slows down, zooms in on their faces, dreamy trap music and blur filter kick in… unfortunately none of the other parts were this heartpounding although I did like the one where she spills whipped cream on his abs.
Otherwise it’s sorta like the billionaire movie: unlike most romcoms, ones in this format notably do have dedicated villain characters, whose evil and repetitive schemes take up most of the running time. Which is maybe good because frankly the main two were only nemeses for like 15 minutes of the movie. Thankfully the evil rich-girl cheerleader squad steps up to the plate by engaging in some of the most sapphic bullying since that one stock photo. My favourite is when the head cheerleader, after seeing the heroine ride home with the rich guy, snaps “you bitch… get her!!” and her two cheer goons unflinchingly move in to seemingly spirit her away to a black site location. In the end they settle for removing her little PRESIDENT lapel sticker and replacing it with a post-it note saying WHORE, which is how i believe it also went down for joe biden. But fortunately the hero comes in and removes the post-it and later gives her the PRESIDENT sticker back. Lots of lapel based interventions in this movie.


Another funny thing about these is that unlike with Hallmark, swearing and sex do exist in this universe, although still within romcom limits. But it’s still a little startling to see the characters make blowjob motions at each other, or when the roughnecks the heroine has to serve for her initial coffee serf job start auditioning for Death Wish (when the hero beats them up they confusingly yell “do you know who we are?!”). The 90sec video format means a lot of the minor character beats need to be played pretty loud: sometimes this gives the impression the whole movie takes place in some indiscriminately hostile Grand Theft Auto NPC universe. When the heroine’s manager comes in after the scuffle he says “This is thousands of dollars in damages!! Don’t talk back with your stupid glasses and braid!! Your boobs aren’t even that big!!”, presumably before indiscriminately wandering the block for a while and being killed by a random car going 120mph.

Another difference: this one actually did the “removes glasses and lets down hair to become Hot” thing which even the television romcoms have started getting a little embarrassed about. But it’s a classic…

Anyway unfortunately the main conflict is defused way too soon to get much juice from it, and even the minor delight of seeing the heroine look dejected in a cartoon maid outfit starts to pall. It is sort of fun when all the plot reasons she absolutely NEEDS to wear a maid outfit feel like they intersect into some editorial cartoon vision of America as Hell (I need $30,000 cash or they won’t perform the surgery!! They turned off my power! I’ll lose my Elite Prep scholarship if I get even ONE detention / fail to become class president / the student body turns on me bc they find out I have a job!!). I did like how many startling 35yo Guys would just show up in all the highschool crowd shots, and the way the hero’s mom has her change of heart from Evil to Good after about 90seconds of screentime, and the way the hero’s emotional bonafides are established by having him talk about his snowglobe collection (when the evil cheerleader gets in to photograph heroine in her maid suit, she tosses one of them to the floor and the heroine has to dive to save it; the enjoyably pathetic way this is explained to him is “I saved this for you… but I couldn’t save myself”).



The end of the movie is a homecoming dance where she comes clean about her deception to her classmates, and then everyone claps, and all the girls leave the room - - and come back in their OWN cartoon maid outfits, to show they’re empowered? And the hero puts the PRESIDENT label on her maid outfit and then also anoints her with a crown. I think there are only so many things that can happen at the end before the movie starts to feel sarcastic.

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