Nietzsche's The Pasta Lust Pt. 1 (Definitive Edition)

that seems to be the youtube comment section consensus, whatever that means. Feels like the PS3 version aged a lot better in these comparison shots and if anything makes it look really good.

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I could even imagine they spend 300 hours to fix the right exertion of hands about how to hold bottles

At least they created a bunch of jobs in economic recession

I don’t know why, naughty dog news always pissed me off

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you still have to get pallets for Ellie to float on because she can’t swim. but now it’s in 4k

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Everything will change once they accept my unsolicited pitch for a non racist reboot of Jade Empire

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I played TLOU in 2015 and I think I liked it because it was the first Naughty Dog game I had played since Crash Bandicoot in the 90s, and I had no idea who made it or how. With all the stuff that’s come out since then Naughty Dog just seems like a pretty shitty place to work and all the lead developers come off as jerks to me. Uh… yeah I’ll never play another one of these games!

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honestly I’m fine with the last of us remake. it is completely unnecessary, asinine, and part of a very depressing trend of everything being remade every 5 years. but also this seems somehow less unnecessary than the last of us part 2 so I mean. idk. honestly I’m more into another remake than a part 3, just bc of how much of a sour taste part 2 left in my mouth. and I feel like that’s more likely than them doing a new IP. in some sense I can’t blame them for doing a retread bc it already felt like they were painted into a corner with part 2 especially after the mixed reception it got. part 1 is still good though. I’m okay with a more gooder version. it’s fine. whatever. the world is about to end.

I might just be brain poisoned bc I have a PS5 and there is basically nothing to play on it except for the demon’s souls remake and uh… god, idk. horizon forbidden west? I guess??

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I’m in the same boat, the one time I used my PS5 a lot was for Elden Ring but I think I would’ve gotten a better framerate on my less powerful PC actually…

I got Returnal and it’s not bad but a bit too grindy and lacking in exciting moments, so I didn’t feel like continuing after reaching the second biome. I got Horizon Forbidden West and haven’t been inclined to revisit it after the script in the opening cutscene and tutorial area irritated the crap out of me.

I’m not at a point in my life where I’m willing to spend 50 hours on a game I only half-enjoy, and that’s all the PS5 has to offer in terms of blockbuster experiences still

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There’s a big contrast between TLOU Part 1 and putting in a 360 disc for Gears 2 on an Xbox Series X to play it in an emulator at 4K/60 FPS. The PS3 haunts Sony to this day.

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I never actually played The Last of Us. Is it good? The reputation of it as a Big Serious Prestige Dad Game always turned me off, and seeing these annoying quotes from Naughty Dog where they’re like “it’s a deadly serious task to remake one of the BEST GAMES EVER!!” is turning me off even further. But I too would kind of like to give my PS5 something else to do.

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How do you feel about animation-heavy third person games like Uncharted or Red Dead?

Prestige dad game aversion aside I put it down because I hated the controls.

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imo, it was actually quite good in 2013, though overindulgent in the way uncharted was, and its encounter design was occasionally very weirdly motivated between the violence and everything else. honestly, I now would much rather play resident evil 7 or 8 to get something with stealth and zombies and good, expensive production design. but in those days the sincerity that necessarily brought in the $$$ was still like, an overall rewarding proposition.

I basically enjoyed both the first red dead and the first uncharted despite personally having a high bar to commit to those kinds of games, and totally neglecting the sequels when they came around, so ymmv

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I’m so unnerved by the third person mode for RE8 but I think I’m in the minority by far on the preference

The whole game is designed around existing primarily as a pair of hands!

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I think the one thing that most people on SB won’t tell you when it comes to evaluating TLOU is how its combat design can be really sweaty and fun. This is true even in TLOU2, and was what kept me playing a lot of the times I was wondering when that game was gonna wrap up. I really enjoy the way they both play, especially on Hard difficulty.

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last of us 2 was good I don’t know why everyone on the internet wanted to be mad about it. seemingly either because of things that weren’t actually in it but they heard were in it through a game of internet telephone or because a muscle woman beat up their favorite murder dad.

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the problem is that like, every individually super-expensive, industry-leading component of these games (like the accessibility features, or the hyperrealistic animation modeling) clashes kind of badly with the reality of actually mixing it up. like, every time the combat gets MGS sloppy, you have characters screaming as they take one fatal shiv wound after another. it’s not pleasant to deviate from the narrative framing.

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PS5 is for playing PS4 games really hard.

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Yeah my appreciation for TLOU as played I think came out of a replay of it, when you’re disillusioned and don’t mind the jarring leaps of tone and choppy abstractions of videogame naturalism. If you don’t notice that clash, or if you respect the presentation too much to care, then a first playthrough is I think still worth it even though you maybe won’t learn to love the rutty brutality of its combat during that time.

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like all sony first party games the first one is massively up its own arse but on ‘grounded’ difficulty it was pretty good? you actually have to look at each encounter and think about how you’re going to approach and it’s satisfying when you’re successful

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TLOU1 is a quite good prestige TV series awkwardly latched onto a quite good survival horror game. I appreciated it enough in 2013 to play through it twice, it felt fresh and necessary in those days.

In the wake of the Ebert debate one of the questions in my mind was “is it even possible for a game to at least tell a story as well as a decent movie/TV series on those mediums’ terms, or does the game aspect fundamentally undermine traditional narrative structure too much?” TLOU1 finally answered that question in the affirmative. It had the most dramatically thoughtful script yet, supported by the best casting and mocap yet. As always there was ludonarrative dissonance in it, yes, but it proved not to be a fatal flaw.

Nowadays that question is not particularly interesting to anyone. What’s more, we’re about to get a literal prestige TV series which will no doubt be better at being that than the game was. So the game itself will be left standing more on the strength of the survival horror gameplay. That part I did enjoy but a full game of it would have been forgettable.

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I had similar reservations about TLOU1, played the first hour anyway at a friend’s house, it was exactly as I expected, I hated it

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