News Thread 10: Beautiful Posts

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george kamitani character designs all have tiny little pinheads and its so distracting

don’t see what’s so good about the 2d animation in vanillaware games, it all looks like live2d paper doll animation

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I think the appeal was mostly them carrying the torch for sprite work during a time a lot of other devs had abandoned it. I’m thinking mostly during the PS2 days, before the big wave of indie games started the “retro” revival.

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nah, dragon’s crown looks great. like yeah some of the titty designs are cartoonishly distracting, but the style in general has this rich baroque sense to it. unicorn overlord has a more generic visual style (tactics ogre + light anime) but is otherwise gorgeous

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13 Sentinels was extremely good, in terms of writing and narrative structure and the VN-esque elements and the entertaining enough strategy gameplay. I never really liked them before that.

Unicorn Overlord was exactly as good as Triangle Strategy, ie “what if a Matsuno game was stupider.”

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(I still wish I had the time to get really into it in spite of that though)

And their style changed completely in 13 Sentinels: they abandoned their plays of shape and proportion, and went hard on extravagant twilight lighting effects instead. I didn’t even realize 13 Sentinels was by the Odin Sphere devs when I played it, and was surprised when I was reminded of the connection later

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Unicorn Overlord is basically going back to their traditional fantasy style, but you can see they also learned something from their experiment. The proportions are now a little less exaggerated, and the lighting is more directional and affects the character sprites more naturally

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voiceover sounds like me recording a school presentation, all the inconsistent emphases and clipped-together sentences

this clause makes me wonder if the script were written with AI:

infiltrate bases guarded by soldiers to gather information from hidden operational maps

far too many syllables for a human to naturally sound out in their head, unnecessary info (who else would be guarding the bases?) and the repeated “ation” is super clunky

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cool character art. i like the amount of variation, like this slightly more “Akira” vibe

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Found out today that there is a break arts I & II :tarothink:

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Giant bong

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Aha, my moment has come. Please allow me to bring a truly unnecessary amount of research and analysis to bear on this one Nightreign trailer line.

I believe this line was primarily written by humans, not AI. It might be a fully human translation from human-written Japanese. Alternatively, it could be a human translation that employed AI merely as a kind of dictionary.

In the original trailer, we find a natural-sounding Japanese phrase with a similar meaning:

Google translate gives us (sometimes, its output is not consistent):

My analysis:

  • The official English translation includes the words “guarded” and “infiltrate”, nonliteral choices that are not likely to occur to AIs.

  • The official English translation alters the meaning on a point where Google Translate is more loyal. The original Japanese does not say the map itself is hidden. It says that the map provides hidden information about the surrounding area. The map itself is probably in an obvious location, and the challenge in obtaining it is purely that soldiers are waiting in ambush around it.

  • “Operational map” is suggestive of some AI use but not conclusive evidence. Because I also found this phrase in the KenkyĆ«sha dictionary:

  • Note that KenkyĆ«sha is the #2 most popular J->E dict. The translator likely failed to find the phrase in the #1 dictionary JEdict and next they checked either Google Translate or KenkyĆ«sha, it’s unclear which.

Finally allow me to take a stab at translating it myself:

(Bracketed phrases are a pending decision depending on what’s actually in the game. Right now it’s ambiguous whether it’s feasible to sneak into the bases, or what the concrete rewards are. If I can’t get an answer before publishing time I would choose the vaguest phrasing)

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seemed like normal insane videogame phrasing to me

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I like to think this is what George R. R. Martin is writing instead of the Winds of Winter.

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Gotta pull in the military sim players I guess

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I’m disappointed that you guys talked about the Schreier/Vanillaware dust up without bringing up that Kamitani’s initial response was to send Jason art of two dwarves from the game bathing or that Dragon’s Crown was the guest card holder sponsor for that year’s E3

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they’re making another ecco

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