I’m not too proud to admit I was on the fence about this one till I realized the fans were mad online about it.
But the kind of anti triumphalism about it also makes the good parts take longer to sink in
As far as I’m concerned, we got one real good movie out of Disney’s moneylust
Ep 9 can be whatever stupid bullshit
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Some of these folks are real mad about the timelines between the Rey/Luke section and the Everything Else section not seeming to match.
Empire Strikes Back does the exact same thing with Luke/Yoda and every other thing I mean you can practically call it an homage.
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This feels like MGS2. It’s all of the structure of scenes we’ve seen before with subverted expectations and the instruction to move on.
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i did have fun with all the Finn/Rose b plot but i feel this same way. the casino stuff was the most “prequel” feeling this Disney series has felt so far. considering fans proclivity to differently edited cuts, i wouldn’t be surprised if a trimmed cut became a thing.
people said this felt a lot like Empire in certain parts but it felt way more like Return of the Jedi? there’s like 3 or 4 crazy things all happening intercut and the length of this movie really can make it feel all over the place
also the length of this really made me hyper aware of how every character speaks in Vauge Mystic Exposition, which i guess makes the human moments of levity really stand out more
finn got shafted as is. that whole subplot is great for setting up rose and developing poe & im solid w it for that plus dj is fun but finn gets nothing. fucken nothing
justice for finn
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hell come back in part 9 and we’ll finally see him in a cool helmet and a star wars movie that develops someone in a cool helmet
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i thought all the theorizing about Snoke and Rey’s parents was completely uninteresting. I’m so happy they jettisoned that stuff.
he gets to beat his old CO up with a laser bat in a really gorgeous shot and goes from running from everyone to save his own ass to intent on a suicide run to help other asses so idk I think there was a little something
there was an ass progression
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Much like Snoke’s almost complete lack of fleshing out Phasma’s treatment almost feels like an audience troll and I sort of dig it for that??
Like I hope they come back for one line in the next one and get unceremoniously shot then we get the first post-credits scene in Star Wars history, starring them, still alive and still mostly just a cool helmet.
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maybe they’re just the head still in the helmet but with robot spider legs like what happened to darth maul
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I guess I don’t understand what’s supposed to be offensive to Star Wars fans? All the plot lines they tease seem more interesting than their eventual middle-of-the-road resolutions. There’s something interesting with Poe being rebuked for his dangerous solo plans, but three twists later and he’s getting Leia’s tacit approval to lead. He didn’t fall far enough to make that arc meaningful. Why do all the main characters make it out alive? Why do they tease either Rey or Kylo going one way or the other just to re-establish the status quo between them (or at least postpone it until the next movie)? If it’s meant to be flippant about Star Wars and its mythos then it’s not flippant enough. If it’s MGS2 then it’s MGS2 without teeth.
I do think the movie is extremely striking visually though; the red room, the salt planet, the island, the spooky hole all work for me. Good visual language.
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I just paid $40 to see this and it was damn worth the experience IMO
I honestly forgot how much I love Mark Hamill’s voice until he spoke his first line and I remembered that it’s Mark Hamill
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I don’t get why the press lied about his opening lines when they’re actually so much better.
Does this not actually suck then? I thought the number 7 was so bad figured it was safe to stick the entire franchise on ignore again
It’s bloated and the Marvel/Disney approach is really starting to become more obvious (the humour in particular is very borderline self-depreciating Whedonisms) but it’s good and inspired and weird where it most counts and makes the weaker parts easier to overlook.
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Yeah, LETS GO CHROMEDOME made me ugh, but there was so much else to enjoy.
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I didn’t mind that line so much and it’s a solid delivery, but yeah. This is a movie that opens with a crank call and has the lead lampshade the cheesecake shots of the adorable mind-rapist villain.
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Beefcake, please. 
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