I think its consistent with the broad values of our community to grant hardship wavers to people who can’t afford to buy in. We could even make the cost of a buy in be proportional to income or some other scheme.
We are in control.
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I make 250-300 a month, before taxes and SS
It would be embarrassing to disclose how much money I make here but I will do it if we want to go ahead.
How should share pricing work if we do an employee-owned cooperative?
- Fixed Share Cost
- Hardship Wavers
- Scaled Share Cost Based on Income
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I keep trying to make a post about my skills and I keep being stopped by my self-loathing and depression that makes me feel like nothing but a burden.
Sorry.
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We love you Hache and there isn’t any reason to apologize.
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Can rhyme all the time unlike a mime who rode the lime while watching some dime made out of crime…
I’ll design and run a tabletop rpg for you in short notice. This is my only skill, my only talent.
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Okay let’s give this a go.
I can…
Make games in:
- HaxeFlixel
- Twine
- Bitsy
Learning to use:
- Python
- Godot
- inky
Moderately good at:
- Image manipulation in that Gnu program
- Basic video editing in Windows Movie Maker
- General troubleshooting
- Canadian personal & self-employed income taxes
- Tabletop RPG writing
There. Did it.
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I believe this is actually a marketable skill.
These skills are good and cool! Welcome!
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This is also a good skill - did you know I wrote dozens of poems for Corpse Wizard?
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it absolutely is not
I will never make marketable games
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there will be no market after revolution, comrade
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Can u explain these options before we vote?
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Yeah, sure:
We want the cooperative to have working capital, which we will raise in part by selling shares. Because we are employee owned, you can’t be an employee without owning a share. In an ideal universe where everyone had the same financial means, we’d set a share price and all by in for the same amount of money.
However, we know that financial means aren’t evenly distributed. There are a few ways to make the process of becoming an employee-owner more just. One is to determine, on a case by case basis, whether a potential employee-owner has financial hardships which justify a partial or full waiver of the ordinary share price.
Another way is to make it a condition of joining that you reveal your current income, and we develop a fixed scheme which maps income to share price. That way someone making 50k a year would pay say 50 dollars for their buy in, but someone making 25k a year might only pay 25 or less (linearity is probably not right, but it is an easy example).
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Also, this is just my suggestion for how it might work. Given that this is a democratic organization, we might want to work out the details procedurally before we do this vote.
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I voted hardship wavers but I’m okay with a scaled model too.
the real thing we need to do is create polls that aren’t first-past-the-post so i can vote for the scaled model as my first choice and hardship as my second thx
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I’m open to any kind of voting, though there is a lot to be said for simplicity.
Here are some resources - anyone want to go through this stuff with me?
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I’ve been looking at some of this stuff from UK sources. Both the how-to guides I looked at say you should start with a viable business plan before actually getting into the structure of the co-operative.
Looking at how to make a business plan makes me realise that being a co-operative doesn’t make the business side of things go away. I guess the point is to be able to approach that captialist stuff in an ethical way.
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