its frustrating how obviously Not For Me destiny is now. i guess im holding out for the new expansion to make it better but i have a feeling theyre just going to double down on the grindy bullshit
i need to do the 50k nightfall too
honestly i think with all of these games they just sort of serve a purpose until we wear them out.
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yeah i used to play destiny 2 for like 6 hours a day in between 13 hour hell shifts at work because it was the only thing i could do to spend time with daphny, but now we see each other every day, so its like…maybe i dont need destiny anymore! idk!!
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What would y’all like to see change?
The line between endgame and grindy bullshit is so very thin.
re: murdering existence
I know they've done some good metal tracks before but this one is hands down my favorite yet.
i dont want to have to kill 500 things over and over for catalysts and triumphs and pinnacle weapons
just cut all the grindy shit in half, like its totally messing with the actual game since people in gambit were farming bow kills for like two fucking months wehn i JUST WANTED TO PLAY THE GAME
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I suspect I’m gonna have to get the catalyst before it feels even remotely as fun as my Blast Furnace
Huh, that’s not at all what I thought of for grindy bullshit.
- Bounties are worse than the vanilla D2 challenge system. Loading in to the tower or vendor LZ to pick things up for glimmer is much worse than just having the objectives in the Ghost nav screen by default. It is tedious for me and severely upsets one of my clanmate’s (actual) OCD if we don’t get all of the available bounties first, including at the beginning of strikes (e.g. in Arms Dealer she wants to go see Devrim first).
- RNG on drops from specific activities like the Dreaming City sparrow/ship/shell, Nightfall guns, etc. just suck. Pinnacles and exotic quests take a while but they’re guaranteed. I’ll get a thousand bow kills in gambit before I run Last Wish enough to get 1KV.
The pursuits screen is a little better in this update but the UI for tracking progress is a nightmare. It should at least be organized by activity like D1’s quest log.
Oh, and half of any perk pool is trash.
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every new pinnacle pursuit they add or exotic pursuit takes like twice as long as it needs to. i noticed this when trying to unlock izanagi forge but like every quest has weird extra filler steps where you have to do stupid shit like kill 20 minotaurs, stuff that makes me stop what im doing to figure out the best way to grind it out. i dont mind if stuff in destiny takes a while, the problem is that theres so much stuff i can do that i consciously have to grind for. i dont really like that they added back random perk rolls, especially for armor. its only gonna get worse when the expansion adds in the destiny 1 stats for armor again! every time i get a new gun it becomes oh what perks does it have and i spend way too much time talking about that bullshit and going through my fucking inventory instead of actually playing the game. the more i play the less i mind random perk rolls on weapons but i wish you would like, get a useful curated roll the first time it would drop and could pull that out of your collection and then its random from there on out. or if there was some kind of way to infuse two of the same weapon in such a way that you could combine the perks. just throw me a fucking bone here! its annoying whenever someone tells me “oh these guns are good try these guns instead” and theyre all grindy pinnacle weapons or locked behind shitty long quests lol. ive have had so many guns drop that have never had useful perks on them or one good roll and one terrible roll and i just dismantle them right away instead of being able to do anything with them its a bungie game, they make games where the shooting is Good, i want to shoot shit with guns that feel good and not have to worry about every other goddamn thing in the world
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I wish Luke Smith was obsessed with Monster Hunter instead of WoW.
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i agree with these too, the bounties are kind of overwhelming and tracking progress on them is unwieldy and annoying. i also tend to agree on the RNG because i feel like half the shit i get is trash and i never see stuff i want - its not even like, nightfall guns or w/e but i never ever see kinetic autos or pulse rifles drop. i just get fucking sniper rifles and hand cannons from EVERY activity all the time. random perks would be so much better if i was actually getting fucking stuff to compare to the guns i have equipped now to see what perks are better instead of being stuck with like, hip fire rangefinder forever because this is the only kinetic auto ive seen in 30 hours and i cant get rid of it
i liked the challenges being on the side of the map instead of the pursuits nonsense, but i get that they added pursuits it because shit was taking up too much inventory space
adding bounties on top of that really fucking sucks though, i agree
if they dont get rid of them at least give me the ability to accept bounties through DIM
if they’re gonna have random rolls, yes. ONLY GUNS should have the random rolls, they’re the only thing fans actually WANTED random rolls on so just leave sparrows, shells, exotics, armor etc curated.
also stop putting useless perks on guns that everyone throws away, i dont want full auto on a gun that fires less than 60rpm. no one does.
GET RID OF GLIMMER there are enough currencies its totally pointless
i really REALLY liked all the quality of life improvements in vanilla destiny 2
i liked no random rolls
i liked the challenge system
i liked how masterworking worked
i didnt like that you had to have exact gun to infuse, but i still hate it because they made infusing so prohbitively expensive and fuck off. if you give me an option of things to wear i should be able to WEAR WHAT I WANT AN INFUSE IT
hmph
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the first step to making gun perks not feel like shit is making it so guns cant roll with useless perks on them. i dont want hip fire on a fucking scout rifle bungie like come on. also you could consolidate a lot of the armor perks from being like, auto rifle/scout rifle/pulse rifle to just rifle-class weapons because as it stands its so much shit to deal with
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also if you’re going to give me seven hundred quests let me track more than three and KEEP THEM IN THE TRACKER WHEN I GO TO THE NEXT STEP OF A FUCKING QUEST
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Yeah, I’d love them to add frames/weapon bounties and/or the Menagerie/Chalice crafting system to every activity. I’m missing Doomsday and Just in Case from Reckoning and it is the absolute worst.
I was gonna say like hey Menagerie, go get yourself a good kinetic but there’s no autos or pulses 
I’m worried that they’ve said that the Eververse stuff will be universal ornaments but haven’t told us how it’ll work for other armor.
Also oh my god, I forgot about the milestones -> challenges change. I feel like the Forsaken UI is actively hostile to my poor miss-the-forest-for-the-trees autistic brain.
I got a Dreaming City helmet with “Precision targeting” and “Scatter targeting” and I’m not taking it off ever.
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destiny is so frustrating because it goes from being really fun and good to being a fucking chore because bungie cant decide whether or not they want the game to be playable or appeal to the ~Hardcore Gamers~ who put in 12 hours a day and want the game to be constant misery to play every year
remember in vanilla d2 when light level didnt matter in iron banner and we all thought ‘oh hey, maybe bungie is growing up and understanding that people with lives want to play their games’
remember being able to just go into trials and iron banana?
NO
NOPE NOPE NOPE
its funny how they made the accessible raid (menagerie) hard mode just a normal fucking raid where you gotta get called slurs by strangers if you wanna chance at good gear
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There’s very little that’s difficult enough for rolls/perks/builds to matter but they need to make the RPG elements fun to non-MMO people. I’m trying to pull out an example of this and I’m coming up with… Mass Effect 2 and 3?
(Regular) Menagerie is a great difference-splitting between hardcore modes and messing around and I hope it’s what we’ll get out of co-op.
I had a blast doing bullshit builds during the Revelry and I hope they bring it back like Titanfall’s burn card system to inject some good imbalance to the game.
Isn’t it just the swords and Izanagi’s catalyst? I googled and it looks like you get a Masterwork out of your chalice, too, but that hardly seems worth it.
theres plenty of MMOs and ARPGs that have figured this shit out, its hard for me to go “oh yeah this is just how it is” anymore and it sucks because i love bungie and i like destiny and i would like to be able to play the game without having to invest all my time into it!!