Yeah, I think that there is a lot of nostalgia for Samsho, in general. And there hasn’t been a new game in the series for a long time.
And then, just as you said, it may as well be a brand new series, to younger players.
On top of all that, again, its a pretty different style of fighter, from most others.
Being a clumsy non-combatant, when Wu runs she covers her head with her shield and apparently this gives her armor against aerial attacks.
saw someone say 3rd strike was “an anime fighter wearing street fighter clothes” or some such… and honestly while i don’t know how rigorous these definitions are, it’s a cool way for me to think about it. at least to understand why my fav fighting games are 3rd strike, UNIST, and melty
I’m really not seeing how it’s an animefighter at all
It’s only an anime fighter if it has airdashes.
If the game doesn’t have airdashes it can still qualify as anime if its roster is 80% anime girls.
If you don’t meet either of those criteria it is just a fighting game.
anime is just shorthand for guilty gear clone
it also helps if the characters talk a lot during the fight
EVO entrants rankings as of this morning:
1st - Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
2nd - Tekken 7
3rd - Street Fighter V
4th - Samurai Shodown
5th - Mortal Kombat 11
6th - Under Night In Birth
7th - Dragonball FighterZ
8th - Soul Calibur 6
9th - Blazblue: Cross Tag Battle
Tekken and UNIST are a testament to the perseverance of both scenes, though Tekken also has the Tekken World Tour to help. Samurai Shodown at four, above Mortal Kombat, is really impressive. That game has a lot of great word of mouth right now (the CEO side tournament tournament this past weekend had more interest than it’s 100+ entrants cap permitted). SNK will need to fix the online mode to keep players longterm though and the community will of course have to carry it in the competitive scene like everyone else. But really impressive nonetheless.
DBZ and BB though, whoof. What happened? ArcSys seemed to be on top of the world last year. Both games were big hits and with people wanting more from SF at the time it felt like ArcSys really could have plausibly dominated the scene for a while to come. I haven’t really been following FG streams so I don’t know what’s going on there for sure.
DBFZ is kinda surprising since the game is still going fairly strong and is having a second world tour and there’s still two more characters confirmed on the way. It could also be the arcsys cycle where Granblu is just around the corner and I guess some players are feeling pulled in multiple directions. I always kind of figured BBTag would be a niche title even with the easy combos but the real game is the meter management and doing the climax tag thing where you switch between two characters on the field and that just gets nutty.
wow, after last evo i would not have believed anyone telling me that unist would be more popular dbfz a year on.
well that scare when toei was briefly preventing tournaments from holding DBFZ events certainly didn’t help
DBFZ suffered a lot from being pulled from various other tournaments for obscure reasons. No one wants to book their travel and accomodations for a tournament only to see the game they’re playing canceled right before the event.
under night in birth is a fighting game about childbirth played with pressure sensitive joysticks
the mother must push forward and keep their breathing steady with a trigger on the side of the controller; the baby must pull back on the joystick as hard as possible and stay in the womb
tournaments for this game attract thousands of screaming fans
yeah i’m also curious what happened to DBFZ. speaking personally there was a period where i was super into watching the game, but that faded pretty quick. I think part of it for me is the fact all the characters seem to have roughly similar looking normals. can’t avoid that with the source material i suppose…
UNIST actually has fantastic character diversity
i also wonder whether on some level ppl are sick of 3 on 3 fighters? idk i wish KOF XIV was popular.
Ok I finally tweaked OBS and got something acceptable for streaming SC6. I had to do 960x540 for the stream, with my current hardware. Can’t keep up 60fps at 720p with good quality.
This is a test video where I just go through most of Seong Mina’s moves Vs a “normal” computer opponent. I…had the sound muted.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/447102663
Watch test stream from ChitonIV on www.twitch.tvI hear the PC playerbase is crap for this game so…oh well? It will be awhile before I can get a PS4.
I thought this wouldn’t play on mobile, because its “high” profile and loaded with b-frames to keep the quality up. But, it played fine on my Windows phone.
Definitely the Toei scare. Your game getting banned from a tournament at the last minute by the rights holder twice will make you rethink a lot.
I thought Toei stopped that relatively quickly though. Did those ramifications carry through the entire year to cause DBZ to be where it is now?
As I understand it DBFZ was already getting a bit stale in the high level meta when the bans happened so it really just accelerated the downward spiral.
DBFZ and BBTag are both very much MvC-style games, and those games tend to bleed less-than-devoted players pretty quickly over time as the setplay gets refined. If you’re not down for engineering your team to give the opponent as little opportunity to play as possible (and accepting that the other person is going to do the same) then those games can get un-fun pretty quickly.
So if you’re new to FGs and got into DBFZ because it looks pretty and you like DBZ, there’s no way you’re sticking around for longer than a year unless you’re part of the niche FG audience that’s super down for ever more oppressive mixups and setplay.
DBFZ in particular was a weird mishmash of decisions because the DBZ IP is fantastic for bringing new people into fighting games, but the game type (tag fighter) typically collapses into generally newbie-hostile crazy ass setplay stuff within the first year or so. It’s a great showcase for characters at first (make your team with all your favorites!) but when BlazGoku420 is forced to choose between the team they want for fan reasons and the team they want for gameplay reasons it feels real bad. So ASW clamped some of the high end stuff (cutting down on one-hit-kills, homogenizing character toolsets) to make it a little less wild than a typical Marvel-style game…but if you want that real tag fighter pure crack action, you’re probably playing BBTag or building up the MvCI/MvC3 revival.