Fading Brakelight Obscurity III - Green-Orange-Checkered Edizione

Grid Legends is kind of fun but man, the EA App is so flaky it makes it almost feel not worth the trouble

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still cannot imagine the shame of being owned by Ted Kravitz

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This is what happens when you raise a generation of drivers on Gran Turismo

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He credits playing a lot of Nascar 2005 on gamecube

Edit: Violent on board video

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imagine if he had played Nascar 2003 on PC … audience dodge( :smirk: )d a bullet there!

Next week in F1:
Switch b& from paddock because of F1 GP2 on N64, dangers of underhanded tactics to be applied by Red Bull next year.


(also also, what did they expect, people have been kicking others out/driving them into walls in recent years, so race Control either applies iron fist sanctoning, or they are too lenient (in spectators’ eyes), so they had to make a quick call and couldn’t find a valid reason (to exclude Ross from Results) in their rulebook, and decided it sticks - that’s, when compared to the faux drama that F1 always like to push on tabloids, at least predictive behaviour and in line with their officiating the last few years.

Wouldn’t be surprised if that’s b& soon tho because of the danger of catching a gap in the wall (official reason), and probably because track owner corporation/orga want to avoid having to replace the safer barrier in turn 3 and 4 (not you, Pocono, we know).

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Landmines on track though, that’s something that F1 hasn’t tried yet…

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i feel kind of dumb - i’ve watched and rewatched this, but can someone explain why this is significant in NASCAR (as a person who has not yet gotten into NASCAR)? like it is just that most drivers will take the path that has been determined to be ā€œfastestā€ i.e. the inside? or is it something else?

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The guy isn’t just taking an outside line, he’s literally grinding his car against the wall to maintain momentum in a very videogamey way that like… probably shouldn’t have worked, physically. So that’s what’s amazing about it. But it’s also controversial because damaging your car on purpose to gain an advantage is considered very unsportsmanlike, because of how dangerous it is.

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Holy hell :heart_eyes:

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i hope they lean into wall riding instead of banning it and in a years time every nascar race will end like that, altho sometimes it wont work and there will be a big crash and someone will think, well if they keep damaging my wall, i will just make a smooth slope between the wall and the track and then in 5 years time all nascar races will be like 500 mile walls of death and then someone will win a race by driving on the ceiling etc. etc.

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In the second vid you can watch the car tear itself apart on the wall. Smoking and throwing chunks of something. Hes easily going twice as fast as other cars that are using the grip of their tires to turn instead of the wall. He just floors it an uses raw horse power to keep his speed up despite the wall friction. Its a maneuver that Ive done in granturismo but has never been done in an actual race. He says himself he was hoping he hadn’t miscalculated where the track entrances were, because if he had he might catch a corner and rip the corner of the car off and spin into the middle of traffic right at the finish line.

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@Father.Torque summarized it pretty good - if you care to dig deeper into NASCAR, there actually is quite some depth to the racing that most people tend to overlook or jokingly ignore and crack some rednecks jokes and leave it at that - what they miss is basic traits of endurance racing applied to tin-top touring car racing, in a very extreme or rudimentary form of tracks (mostly ovals). Highly recommended to watch some seasons worth of 12–15 minute recaps of races that Nascar has produced over the years to get a feel for what it is (or isn’t).

Depending on banking, length of the track and radius of corners, multiple lines can be chosen (tighter line on the bottom means less distance traveled, but washing upwards at the exit of corners, line at the top means more distance traveled, but you can take greater speed on straights, probably less tire-murdering (because less abrasive cornering forces applied to surface of tire - if the upper groove isn’t more abrasive that is!) or maybe better fit for the gearing a driver chose (topspeed vs. acceleration), over 500 miles the track and cars change, so adapting your driving technique to damage, track surface changes and time of day is as essential as it is in other forms of motorsport. So, you get tracks which differ as much as european racetracks - 2 mile superspeedways, tri-ovals, sub-1-mile ovals, up to 10+° banking or almost flat - just imagine if someone would proclaim that Hockenheim, Monza and Spa are basically the same track and there isn’t much difference between them, we’d all have a good laugh.

Since watching spec … stockcars … turning left 500 times does get boring, there is a focus on personality of drivers (and you either go all in and choose your favs, or you root for the underdogs or love to hate driver X) and the organizing body souped up the product by introducing a shootout/playoff format, round-of-16/8/4 for the championship, which upped the drama accordingly - what you saw is the last-lap surprise move that a young driver (in a young team on the way up) on the cusp of being part of last-4 Championship pulled and got away with, media has a field day because it indeed did look like someone broke physics-engine, and sporting behaviour will be a topic in lower class racing as well (because everyone knows that such a move can be done now - it might not work, but if in doubt, why not try it if you can bank on a shot at a multi million dollar championship with it?) that may change the face of the sport as we know it.

So, why do people get riled up about it?
Opinions and stuff, as usual, however:
Because it is a dangerous thing driving into the wall, or rather getting up into the catch-fence

content warning, serious crash footage into fences, not for the faint hearted:

Austin Dillon wreck Front row view daytona 7_15 - YouTube

IndyCar Series - Kenny Brack crash Texas 2003 - High Quality - YouTube

… and if you wonder what may happen if there isn’t a fence, everybody involved needs a lot of luck like here:

Le Mans crash 2011 - Allan McNish - YouTube

and each time a car gets into the wall, there’s a chance it goes horribly wrong - having that at each track at the end of the race multiplies an unfortunate thing happening by up to 32 times (joke’s on Nascar for having a term for that kind of accident waiting to happen on some tracks, called ā€˜the big one’, due to the specific rulesets/aero regulations for some races that cause everyone to stick together for basically the whole race).

So, yes, they’re asking for it in a way, but we don’t need people carrying oil drums to the fire either, is where some people are coming from!

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Jesus, and me without my trusty fainting couch

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the real reason some people are mad he did that is because it is the most nascar thing imaginable and they are annoyed about playing into the stereotypes. embrace who you are. full send

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Damn. That moving platform.

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Anyone here played Super Woden GP and have thoughts about it to share?

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My new obsession, youtube videos of stupidly fast cars in Asseto Corsa

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remember that one?

reminiscence about cars you never owned, because they didn’t exist:

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is it OK to crave one of these then …

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