he’d up our dadditude by something like 200%
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Anyways I need to tell the story I always tell when Fable comes up. Fable 3 was part of that wave of games that wanted to high score board everything. In the tutorial it teaches you how to hold hands, and when I grabed the person’s hand a scoreboard with a few friends popped up. When I got to the location they wanted me to walk to, I took one extra step and topped all of my friends, who were tied at the absolute minimum distance you had to hold hands to complete the tutorial.
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Perfect
in fable 1 one of the doors wanted to see an evil act. the only thing i could think to do was to buy a bunch of baby chickens to eat in front of it, which made my hero become Evil as well as Fat in addition to Broke. later on, i figured out that you weren’t supposed to do this
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Pretty true TBH
Less clear is why eating a whole lot of celery is Pure Social Justice and makes up for kidnapping and sacrificing dozens to the elder gods
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honestly it’s hard to see the meat-celery spectrum in Fable as anything else other than an outright political statement
I don’t think Fable’s world commits to mass, inhumane meat farming anyway so the idea is rooted in our norms, which is 
Actually celery and all other vegetables only raise your purity which is separate from morality, so you can sacrifice a bunch of people but be very pure and basically turn into a pale-ass vegetarian vampire.
Purity kind of tracks with a vague idea of “health” and “decadence,” so doing things like eating rich foods (meat), making lots of money from your shops, or getting drunk a lot will lower your purity. On the other hand, eating vegetables, drinking clean water, or lowering your prices to make less profit will make your purity go up.
So if there’s a political statement there, it’s that eating meat is for gross rich people? It doesn’t track well with anything really. Especially since they combine money and meat into one scale.
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splitting this into another post because i wanted to make sure the post above was clear somebody please stop me from writing more shit about fable 2 it’s a disease
More info on purity:
Very low purity scores will surround you with flies and, like, stink clouds at any morality score, so high morality + low purity = very moral and righteous dirtbag who repels people with filth.
Alternately, high purity will make you slightly paler and have a sort of glowing aura, so low morality + high purity = beautiful asshole that people love and hate equally. It’s weird.
This is totally separate from attractiveness, which is affected by your purity, your weight (god damnit), and your clothing choices. So you can be very pure but fat and dressed poorly and your attractiveness will still be very low. It’s a…thing.
EDIT: Tofu raises your morality by 5 points which is like 1/15th of a murder, it’s the only food that does it. So I guess Tofu is for good people and can erase sins. Honestly I think they just wanted an alternative to Crunchy Chicks, which is the only food that lowers your morality. I think a lot of decisions were based purely on “we need to affect this meter somehow”
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the famous gout <–> breatharian moral axis
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In the twentieth century the tribes of New Zealand had, under the influence of British colonists, left off eating their prisoners of war. The British themselves, influenced by a prophet whose name has come down to us in various forms as Shelley, Shakespear, and Shavius, had already, after some centuries of restricted cannibalism in which only fishes, frogs, birds, sheep, cows, pigs, rabbits, and whales were eaten, been gradually persuaded to abstain from these also, and to live on plants and fruits, and even on grass, honey, and nuts: a diet which they called vegetarian. Full stop. New paragraph. Ahem!
As this change saved the labor of breeding animals for food, and supported human health and longevity quite as well, if not better, than the eating of dead animals, it was for some time unchallenged as a step forward in civilization. But some unforeseen consequences followed. When cattle were no longer bred and slaughtered for food, milk and butter, cheese and eggs, were no longer to be had. Grass, leaves, and nettles became the staple diet. This was sufficient for rude physical health. At the Olympic Games grass eating athletes broke all the records. This was not surprising, as it had long been known that bulls and elephants, fed on grass and leaves, were the strongest, most fertile, most passionate animals known. But they were also the most ferocious, being so dangerous that nobody dared cross a field in which a bull was loose, and every elephant had to have an armed keeper to restrain it. It had also been noticed that human vegetarians were restless, pugnacious, and savagely abusive in their continual controversies with the remaining meat eaters, who found it easy and pleasant to lead sedentary lives in stuffy rooms whilst the vegetarians could not live without much exercise in the fresh air. When grass eating became general men became more ferocious and dangerous than bulls. Happily they also became less capable of organized action of any kind. They could not or would not make political alliances, nor engage in industrial mass production or wage world wars. Atomic bombs and poison gases and the like were quite beyond their powers of cooperation: their ferocities and animosities, like those of the bull, did not go beyond trespassers within sight and reach. With the ending of wars their numbers increased enormously; but to the few born thinkers who still cropped up among them and ruled them as far as they were capable of being ruled, it was apparent that they were changing into supergorillas through eating grass and leaves. And though they lived longer than the meat eaters, they still suffered from certain deadly diseases and from decay of teeth, failure of eyesight, and decrepitude in old age. Their ablest biologists had to agree that the human race, having tried eating everything on earth that was eatable, had found no food that did not sooner or later poison them. This was challenged by a Russian woman, a noted vegetarian athlete. She pointed out that there was a diet that had not been tried: namely, living on air and water. The supergorillas ridiculed her, alleging that air is not food: it is nothing; and mankind cannot live on nothing in empty space. But a famous mathematician shewed just then that there is no such thing as nothing, and that space is not emptiness and in fact does not exist. There is substance, called matter, everywhere: in fact, the universe consists of nothing else; but whether we can perceive it, or eat and drink it, depends on temperature, rate of radiation, and the sensitiveness of the instruments for detecting and measuring it. As temperature rises, water changes from solid ice to liquid fluid, from liquid fluid to steam, from steam to gas; but it is none the less substantial even at temperatures that are quite immeasurable and hardly conceivable. It followed logically that living on air is as possible as living on flesh or on grass and chopped carrots, though as men cannot live under water, nor fishes out of it, each phase of substance has its appropriate form of life and diet and set of habits. Such creatures as angels are as possible as whales and minnows, elephants and microbes.
The Russian woman claimed that she had lived for months on air and water, but on condition that the air was fresh and that she took the hardest physical exercise daily. It was already known that the vigils and fasts of saints did not weaken them when their spiritual activity was intense enough to produce a state of ecstasy. Full stop: new paragraph.
This briefly is the history of the epoch-making change in social organization produced by the ending of the food problem which had through all recorded history made men the slaves of nature, and defeated all their aspirations to be free to do what they like instead of what they must. The world became a world of athletes, artists, craftsmen, physicists, and mathematicians, instead of farmers, millers, bakers, butchers, bar tenders, brewers, and distillers. Hunger and thirst, which had for centuries meant the need for bread and onions, cheese and beer, beef and mutton, became a search for knowledge of nature and power over it, and a desire for truth and righteousness. The supergorilla became the soldier and servant of Creative Evolution.
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the corruption from the shops should be the price gouging, i don’t remember money itself lowering purity.
money-meat as one thing makes me think of that level on one of the hitman games.
Oops yeah that’s what I meant
Had a sudden thought about Peter Molyneux. Some lifetime ago I covered his GDC panel for Fable 2, and I recall a moment where he dwelled on how he noticed Americans seem to think farting is a little weird, but he promised us that back in Britain people think it’s just hilarious. Then he proceeded to show the various fart-related commands in Fable 2.
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I just had that thought, and needed to put it somewhere that wasn’t in my head. So now it’s yours.
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